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all right i have finally been able to get my hand on a copy. i got the store to check their delivery boxes to get it out.first impression is very poor why,well first let me tell you what system i have P4 1,500 MHZ 768MB RDRAM PC800Nvidia Getforce3. 64MB40Gh hard drive. i have FS running on max, i get good frame rates. i can get up to 70FPS in not so heavy areas, and i average about 8-12 PFS with Simflyers's dulles airport, so with airport 20002 i am getting about 3-6 FPS this is without running FS on max.i am not a happy camper, i can go on on with this, but i am upset just to talk about it. i will give some more feedbacks when i get some food in my stomach, considering been fasting all day. :-mad

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plus looking from the 2D panel i can't really see the airport all i see is the ground the scenery dissapears everytime you go to the 2D panel.

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Hi:I just got my Airport 2002 today. The scenery is good. I don't know how they compair to others, like Simflyers. FSNAT is interesting. It adds some nice realism to FS. The 737-700 is a real disappointment. Model is poorly designed, I really don't like the display. 2D panel with 3D landing panel would be better. It does not really work in my system either. So far, I would give Wilco a D+ for this product. They really could have put some time and energy and make a better flight model and pay attention to their 3D panel, its very difficult to read.Charles

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What I hate about Wilco's release is that everyone is getting a copy but me. I paid well in advance and they processed my credit card without hesitation, why can't they deliver the product to me before it hits the stores? Now I'm faced with seeing it on store shelves and not being able to buy it without paying twice. I have emailed Wilco a few days ago and no reply. I should have known. I fall for this every time.

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Ken by the sounds of the reviews here i dont think your missing out on much by not having your copy

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well i all ready gave mine back unfortunatly i can only get a gift card but not a rufund.i think wilco should get their priority right before they loose their name if it wasn't of 767PIC they probably won't be hear if i am been hard i am sorry but this is what i feel when i have a good system and i have to go through this.watch out for the Airbus PIC.

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Oh yeah Wilco. It's always nice to hear that others have not only purchased the product off the shelf but have already returned it. Meanwhile, having pre-paid for the product...yada, yada, yada.

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By the way, I sent email to jd at Radar Contact and he replied within 30 minutes, and this is not the first time he has done this. Great product support jd. I have yet to hear from Wilco after several days, and "No" I will not email again. I shouldn't have to. If this keeps up I will join the boycott of Wilco that I am sure will take place soon.

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If you have not received your product yet or and would like a refund, but Wilco has not contacted you. Stop them at the source, your credit card company. Put a stop payment on the card and when Wilco gets the denial they will not send you the product. Simple as that. I am pretty close with my financial istitution, plus i used to work there, so I know how the game is played. If a company ticks me off and won't refund me, then I just dispute the payment. Since you did not recieve services, there should be not dispute....Just a thought....But here I was wondering how I could get my hands on Airport 2002. All of my local stores don't have it, and I don't want to pay for shipping and handling....Doesn't sound like I am missing out much....

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I have had my copy for less than a week and had not one problem.My performance is EXACTLY the same as simflyers and I have AFCAD overlays now that I have made.Mind you I do not max my AI or Clouds out so maybe that's why I get a constant 12-15 FPS.Also you can remove any of the static aircrafts or ground objects by looking in the scenery folders and viewing the file list for the BGL.I will admit at first I felt a bit ripped off but now that i have taken the time to tweak thing s a bit .I really enjoy it now.Capt.Richard Dillon (KATL)www.jetstarairlines.com"Bill Grabowski's"ERJ-145 panel Beta TeamMD-11 panel Beta Team-----------------------PAI beta team -----------------------"Lets Roll" 9/11 -----------------------Specs AMD 1600 XP MSI KT 266t pro2 512MB DDR 2100GF3 ti 200 64MB SBliveCh Products Yoke and Pedals(usb)Windows 2000 Serivce Pack 3

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"...and when I squinted, the world seemed rose tinted...angels appeared to descend...to my surprise...with half-closed eyes...things looked even better than when they were open..."- M. Gore, Depeche Mode - Violator

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Hello,I am sorry you don't give little more in depth look.About performance, you might see most people arranging their settings according to what we recommended and enjoyed the product.You might have seen from me several posts, here and on other forums explaining how to enjoy this product at its best. And most prople end up understanding all the benefits from the product.I am not claiming that this product is perfect (but which one is?,he) but honestly, it is worth more attention than just loading it on your computer and removing it 10 minutes later, without going through all the possibilities described in the manual.Anyway, I am not here to argue but fast judgment on a product like that is in my view, certainly not the way to go.Just my personal opinion,Michael RenousWilco PublishingNB One could write few pages on what are the possibilities of either the airport, FSNAT or the active 3D panel

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Ken,Where did you send your e-mail to? We receive litterally hunderds of e-mails, and I am making sure that every evening all have been answered. Please send an e-mail at my attention at info@wilcopub.com and I'll check what happened with your orderMichael RenousWilco Publihsinghttp://www.wilcopub.com

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Charles,Are you using a 3buttons-mouse or a joystick, using only the keyboard?HAve you been trying the shortcuts CTRL-1 to CTRL-9?Hope to be able to help,Michael RenousWilco Publishinghttp://www.wilcopub.com

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Saw the screenshots of the 737-700 cockpit and lots of stuff are missing, most notably the standby altimeter, Gear lights, the upper (Hey where's the N2, fuel flow and oil data?) and the lower DU.(The Nav map looks a bit awkward as well....)

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PIV 1.7(on ASUS) - 512MB - AsusV8200 (GeForce3-64MB) and I experience framerates from 6-12fps (Thats for PSS A320 with Airports2002)...Having GermanAirports installed my framerate was at constantly 25fps (PSS A320 und GAP and nearly all sliders up to max!)As in the Ads for A2K2: "FSNAT is really FrameRateFriendly" - but forget this for the Scenery and the 737!!!Its not acceptable to move at 8fps average. Even with everything disabled and reduced to min in "graphic options" I never get more than 14fps (But why install realistic textures and models and then switch to lowQuality?).And I better forget to mention framerates in the Airports2002/737-700 combination. The same for the features and usabilty (yes even with my 3button-WheelMouse).Dont get me wrong...I really admire Wilcos work in that great and detailed airports but I

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This has been my complaint with must addons.People say turn down you settings to enjoy it .I think that is a rude suggestion because I should not have to reconfigure my fs setup to suit only ONE product.I can say though if you turn of AI traffic the FPS at Wilco airports will stay at 25 however I should not have to disable a function to enjoy something I just spent $50 USD on ( $14 came from 2 ground shiping).Iam happy with the way it looks and it did perform well until I started to add my afcad overlays.Even with very little AI traffic my FPS in to KATL droped to 4 and it was not even packed.So now Iam becoming disappointed.My review still holds true because the performance is great by default which is proboly of more importance to Wilco.I can live without AI traffic since I do most of my simming online with VATSIM but I just can't live with a airport that looks incomplete when you companies like simflyers doing near perfect layout with good FPS.Iam not sure why Wilco left out so much .That is the most disappointing part.The 737 performance is horrible and I pray that the A320 not only looks but performs better because it's the only plane I fly (PSS) and I have looked forward to the wilco release but iam not so sure now.Iam not tring to sound insulting and I hope it has not come across that way Capt.Richard Dillon (KATL)www.jetstarairlines.com"Bill Grabowski's"ERJ-145 panel Beta TeamMD-11 panel Beta Team-----------------------PAI beta team -----------------------"Lets Roll" 9/11 -----------------------Specs AMD 1600 XP MSI KT 266t pro2 512MB DDR 2100GF3 ti 200 64MB SBliveCh Products Yoke and Pedals(usb)Windows 2000 Serivce Pack 3

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I use Win ME and I have not been able to even run the A2002 scenery YET!!! Support told me that there is a major issue with Win98 systems and they are working on a solution. I spent my $40 a week ago and have not been able to even see the stuff (get computer out of memory errors and an FS2002 crash if I get near a Wilco airport)If the 737-700 was meant to be a preview of A320 PIC, forget it!! I'm not getting anywhere near that software.I will work hard to make this work before I request a return, but I looks like this product may bomb. Only because of performance issues. I still think Wilco is ahead of its time in seeing where the FS2002 is going, but if the average system can't handle it, you can't sell it.WhadzenMy average systemPIII 1Ghz512RAMNVIDIA Geoforce mx 32MB60GIG HD

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Wow, I wonder if they tested it on ME. Is there anyone else that you know of that has ME and also has the problem? Bob

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You said "I still think Wilco is ahead of its time in seeing where the FS2002 is going"I think I know where FS2002 is going but not sure I know where Wilco is going (-:BobG

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It will not load on my Windows ME machine. I get an "out of memory error".Tony

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Hi:I think that Airport 2002 is nice, I like the FSNAT and added scenery. However, their 737-700 is a big, big disapointment. It looks like its just quickly made without much consideration. Panels are indeed not readable and frustrating to fly. Will I return it, probably not as the scenery is nice and adds something. But I hope Wilco will do something to the aircraft, it needs help.Charles

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Well a few minutes ago like a moron I decided to see if I was getting single digit FPS.Low and behold 8 on the appoarch and then I noticed the stutters because this was stuff I had not reallly WANTED to look for before.On the ground I was getting 5.Ok so maybe I jumped the gun on good performance because for brief period it was performing well or so it seemed.I went back to simflyers 25FPS of course but no AI even with AI it was not 6 FPS i can tell you that.This was with KATL I can not account for the others.I just can't understand why you make things with such a high poly count knowing what it does to performance.Which is key.Iam keeping my fingers crossed for improvment but I WILL NOT RECONFIGURE FS2002 for one product.That is silly.I have never had to do it before and I will not start now.I think if the polycount goes down on the main terminals and static objects things will improve but this is likely to happy.I hope i do not have $50 coaster . Sorry guys I guess I spoke to soon from excitement !Capt.Richard Dillon (KATL)www.jetstarairlines.com"Bill Grabowski's"ERJ-145 panel Beta TeamMD-11 panel Beta Team-----------------------PAI beta team -----------------------"Lets Roll" 9/11 -----------------------Specs AMD 1600 XP MSI KT 266t pro2 512MB DDR 2100GF3 ti 200 64MB SBliveCh Products Yoke and Pedals(usb)Windows 2000 Serivce Pack 3

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well i am the guy that started this topic,i played around with the options,and i got a little better performance.i have tried airports Los Angeles Atlanta, if i switch to the overview options (CLT+S)i get nothing but sand and also when i switch to front cockpit the 2D view i was able to get better performance at Charles De Gaulle. and this is without any AI at all. and i an not able to see the docking system al US Airports nor the Gate Numbers and Airline Logos at jetways plus i can seem to get the jetway to move in position.I Don't Know.

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