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New R22!Lovely!!

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I love this little Bird! But I have a question about the tail-rotor:I'm used to fly choppers in FS2002 with all sliders maxed out, max sensitivity on the joystick.... Here my question: What would be an appropriate setting for this? With these settings it's impossible to touch my rudder without yawing like crazy. A touch of wind, and off we go... What settings do you use?Ballistero

Ummm, yeah this ones a bit tricky! I have 100% real settings & find the machine just too sensitive to fly. I gather the designer has aimed to make it as real as possible - the tiniest movements are required; you 'think it" rather than do it. Problem for me is my old CH Pro stick & pedals have just a little too much play to make this work. I do like it in principle tho. Ill have to decide whether to back off the realism or adjust the MOI's in the FD to compensate for the slop.LPXO

I have already sent an email to the author thanking him for this effort. It's the most impressive F2002 helo I've seen flight-model-wise since I discovered the digital-flight.com modded 206. And I also really like the photo-realistic 2D panels he's done.That said, I just re-flew it for a little while, and managed to get the ship into a more or less permanent side-to-side yawing while doing about 90kts or so. The flight model is definitely on the twitchy side - but so is the real aircraft (I have around 15 hours in 'em). Most of my flying prior to getting in a '22 was in the S300C/B, and it took me a while to not overcontrol - most new R22 pilots will go through a period of PIO (pilot induced oscillation) before internalizing the ship's behavior - e.g. knowing how much control pressure to put in, and how long to wait for the response.So anyway I keep my sliders maxed out - both realism and control sensitivities (using CH gameport stick/throttle/pedals). Here's what I found with some quick playing around just now:- backing off on the collective (throttle) helps to settle down the yawing. Slowing down seems to do the same - so try lowering the collective and raising the nose a bit and see if it stops "hunting" so much. - pedal input during level/constant speed flight should be minimal - you don't steer with pedal input, you steer with the cyclic. The pedals are only used to set the track of the fuselage w.r.t. the wind. (Most R22s have a piece of string/yarn attached to the windscreen to show whether you've "trued" the pedals correctly. With the string centered, the fuselage is in an optimal track w.r.t. the wind and thus you can attain whatever maximum speed that's possible.)- in a hover, the pedals work fine. It seems that the side-to-side yawing tendency only happens in forward flight.- I would keep gusts and turbulence disabled. I normally do anyway, since FS2002's simulation of these doesn't really feel/look right to me.It would be great if the flight model could be tweaked to eliminate this over-sensitive yaw behavior, but I have a gut feeling that these tweaks would dampen down the response to something more similar to the stock '206 - which feels like I'm flying in hair gel to an extent. So unless I'm wrong about this, I'd prefer that it be left alone.The only downside of the flight model other than what was just discussed is the autorotational behavior - it's *very* hard to maintain yaw control at the bottom of the descent (i.e. during flare and pitch pull) and I haven't been able to get it on the ground in one piece in three or four tries. The author told me that this is kinda just the way it is, and making this better would (again) hose up the rest of the flight model.Hopefully FS2004 will have a better helicopter flight model, but some folks that seem to be in the know say not to hold my breath.In closing, I'd like to commend the author on a coupla things about the panel - the manifold pressure gauge (which actually is showing "torque" just as the 206's torque indicator does, but yet seems to behave correctly), and the dual rotor/engine RPM gauge. Very close to Real.I'll keep playing with this ship, but so far I'm quite impressed.cheers,Dave Blevins

System: Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3 mobo *** i7 2700K @ 5gHz w/ Corsair H80 cooler

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Good post.I too have hours in an R-22 and this helicopter is a little "over-sensitive" IMO.The real R-22 I have flown, although twitchy, sure doesn't yaw violently like this one. Hopefully he gets it fixed up...I ahve always wanted a good R-22 for FS :)

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Guys...it is definitely a very nice 'copter!!But i have 1 small problem....why cant i get the guages to show up??it doesn't matter where i put them (eg: Guagesr22.gau) they will not show up in the V.C. mode or 2d cockpit mode!!!Help please guys!!! getting frustrated here!!!CheersBrian Bradnell

I too have the gauge problem and I have had some correspondance with the author about the matter and he is working on a fix. It only happens to certain people, it nothing todo with installing it incorrectly it is to do with the system or FS. Just sit tight and wait for the fix.I like the flight model it keeps you on your toes, literally!! Bye for nowNP.

Cool, Thanks NP, :)at least i know it's not just me!! LOLwas beginning to get worried there!!!! :)well, i guess we just gotta wait.Thanks again!!Brian Bradnell

Guys,An update on the R22 guage issue , it seems it occurs with user running Windows Me or Win 98 (Possibly Win95) , users with Win2K or XP are uneffected. I ran a spare PC up with ME and was instantly able to replicate the problem which has help me I believe resolve the issue.I currently have a few of users who also reported the problem testing the gauge to verify the problem is resolved prior to releasing a patch. So far two users have come back and reported that the gauges now work. I'll await the result of the others and if ok I will release an immediate patch.Cheers and all the best Gilles.BTW in the midst of working on a gauge fix I have managed to make a start on my next model the R44 . Stay tuned Robinson fans.http://forums.avsim.com/user_files/13845.jpg

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