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Fs2004 and Rudder Problems

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I use a CH Flight Yoke and CH Pro Pedals along with the CH Manager. I've never had any problems with it before but for some reason my rudder has developed a mind of its own and just flutters around. I've been trying now for a week to find a solution but it all ends up as a no go. I'm using a registered Fsuipc along with its "Joystick Calibration" program and had loaded v3.73 but at present have 3.731 beta on just to try yet another angle. I have just upgraded to CH Manager 4.2 but it hasn't solved the problem unfortunately. I'm hoping that someone out there will be able to help me solve this or point in the right direction to find and answer. Thankyou in anticipation. Don:-(

What exactly is wrong? Does it do a left hardover? Does it "twitter" endlessly from side to side with no real deflection? I have CH hardware (yoke, pedals, throttle quad) and have never used the Control Manager because CH told me twice that it's unnecessary to do so in the absence of programming macros for their equipment. So I've never used CHCM. I don't use FSUIPC (which I do have, reg'd ver.) to program the rudder pedals either. I plug the pedals and CH yoke directly into my PC's USB 2.0 ports and do assignments entirely through FS9. It's never failed once.More info would be helpful.JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Hi there and thanks for your prompt response. To answer your question...when I press the right pedal the rudder goes right as is should and remains there while that pedal is depressed. When I press the left pedal it goes partly left, gives a little jump and then immediately flicks back to right. Other times is just sits in neutral jumping continuously jumping slightly either way. If you go into Fsuipc Joystick calibration the figures in the windows under "RESET" just change to eg (as they are at this moment) -12739 and lower -12625. But hey, I'm going to try your way...delete all the CH stuff, and not use fsuipc.....it just sounds so easy and uncomplicated to me. Many thanks :)

Unplug your pedals and delete any FSUIPC settings for them Windows XP will do things for you. Keep it simple. I can't advise beyond this because it works for me and works reliably. I used to calibrate in FSUIPC in Windows XP and Windows 98 and it was all horrific with the pedals in the old days.Also, go into SPOT view to see what is happening and to test.Keep it Simple! And report back.JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Uninstal the CH control manager software as well. When all is uninstalled and deleted, start again as if it were the first time plugging the hardware in.JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Gday, Sorry to say that I couldn't get the controls to work properly so have scrapped the current version and am presently reloading Fs9 from a copy on an external drive. Thanks again for help tho...I will not use CH Manager with this repacement version tho.Regards Don S

This sounds like it may be the rudder pot itself. I've never owned the CH stuff, and made my own instead, but this is also the symptom of a dirty pot. If none of the other suggestions above work - open it up (look out for flying springs (thanks, Captain Picasso post!)) and - if you can get at the pot - give it a shot of electronic cleaning spray. If that doesn't make a change - disconnect it and physically measure it's resistance change with an ohmeter as you sweep through its range. It should be smooth and steady. If it's erratic or jerky - replace it with a better quality pot (with the same resistance).If that and the other suggestions don't/didn't fix - it sell it on eBay. . .:-beerchug


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Gday and thanks for your comments. The reload didn't work either so, yes, I will have a close look at the pedals themselves because they have done a lot of work over the years. If I can find nothing then I'll go to your second idea.....maybe:-lol - it never ceases to amaze me tho just what does sell on E-Bay! Will report back. The external drive copy (created in Jan 07) - is working fine so I'm thinking I've downloaded something since them that I'm then copying into fs9 is corrupting things...will see what happens. Don

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