March 6, 200818 yr System Specs:Motherboard = P5-GL-MXP4 3.0SB Live 24MSI NVidia GeForce NX8800GT 512 PCI-EAll BIOS & Drivers are Up To Date2 Gb Geil PC3200 Dual Channel RAMClean Install of VISTA HOME BASICWD 250 GB SATA 7200580 Watt Power SupplyI installed a clean copy of VISTA HOME BASIC.Installed a new Video Card on that new SATA drive.Installed FSX and SP2Applied all updates & Tweaks supplied on this forum. ( .pdf file )I have all sliders truned all the way down. No AutoGen, No Weather No nothing.I am sitting at KSEA in the default 737 and am getting 5 FPS.Here is my FSX.CFGAny help would be 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FilesMicrosoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XGAUGES737-400.DLL.ooeirbctciohqonnkeheuraazzzzlkaionohebet=2C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XGAUGES737-400.DLL.onhwrkonnlcklkqbziwbkanzbkzcbneokqiuraci=2[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT.0.0]Mode=1680x1050x32[MULTIPLAYER]condAccoutPassword=0
March 6, 200818 yr 1. Forget the tweak PDF for now2. delete the FSX.cfg file (or move it somewhere safe) and rebuild using #3 below.3. Read this and follow directions... EXCEPT, you will see a link in that thread which refers to a 'tune-up of XPSP2.. ignore that since you are on VISTAhttp://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...d=437662&page=2keep in mind that person is on XP and a P4 with a 256Mb video card and his response was HOLY MOLY running UTX and GENn so you should be able to do something with that list too although without the addons there may not be the same visual impact.Also, there are instructions for UTX setup in that thread, ignore them unless you have UTX installed but make SURE to use Nhancer and those driver settings exactly as I posted4. Try again with those driver settings, Nhancer settings, FSX settings and how to trim in the slidersSee how it does.if your still having problems then shut down DEFENDER and the INDEXING SERVICE in VISTA and also shut down UAC and any AV or security product you are usingYou are running a bit slow on your hardware for a Vista machine too so dont expect miracles
March 6, 200818 yr and make SURE you have ALL the Vista PERFORMACE patches offered at Microsoft though Windows Update.. go there manually and verify you have everything updated.The MS PATCH link I posted in that other thread is for dual core/hyperthread on XP and is not for VISTA
March 6, 200818 yr OK I am working this over now and will repost shortly. YThx a bunchTurnipSystem Specs:Motherboard = P5-GL-MXP4 3.0SB Live 24MSI NVidia GeForce NX8800GT 512All BIOS Up To Date2 Gb Geil PC3200 Dual Channel RAMClean Install of VISTA HOME BASICWD 250 GB SATA 7200
March 6, 200818 yr and DONT USE DX10 preview for FSXits a joke and not worth the hassles or the losses, especially with nvidia cards
March 6, 200818 yr Well, I've done everything that was on the posts. Even shut down DEFENDER and am now getting 3 FPS. I am really pulling my hair out here. The planes look terrible. I followed everything to the letter and still nothing.Any other ideas?TurnipSystem Specs:Motherboard = P5-GL-MXP4 3.0SB Live 24MSI NVidia GeForce NX8800GT 512All BIOS Up To Date2 Gb Geil PC3200 Dual Channel RAMClean Install of VISTA HOME BASICWD 250 GB SATA 7200
March 6, 200818 yr Well, I can tell you this. that is slow processor for VistaAnd other than knowing everything about your machine and going through it myself I really cant make many other suggestions.Perhaps you should have the system looked at by a professional and see what their opinion is about the system and what you are trying to do... especially using Vista.I wish I could help further.. I really do but in this case it sounds to me like the system is not working properlyHave you defragmented your hard drive since installing FSX and your software?
March 6, 200818 yr Beofre I bought the card, a "tech" guy said the card was compatible as it is a older MotherBoard. PCI-E 1.0. This is a 2.0 card but he said that it would work fine. I just read that it is NOT compatible with PCI-E 1.0 - 1.0A. I am assuming that THAT is what I have. Is there a way to update the PCI-E driver on this MB? I have the latest BIOS for it installed.TurnipSystem Specs:Motherboard = P5-GL-MXP4 3.0SB Live 24MSI NVidia GeForce NX8800GT 512All BIOS Up To Date2 Gb Geil PC3200 Dual Channel RAMClean Install of VISTA HOME BASICWD 250 GB SATA 7200
March 6, 200818 yr >>Any other ideas?>>>Turnip>I concur with Nick that your cpu is rather slow for FSX + Vista. In fact it's a little slow for FSX period. There is only so much you can do, because of that. Your system is far out of balance with an 8800 card mated to a P4/3.0.Even so, my belief is that you should be getting more than 3-5 fps. Let me ask you this: If you start up at KSEA, and let the plane sit there for 10-15 minutes, what kind of frame rate do you see after that time passes?RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
March 7, 200818 yr I'll give it a shot but after doing the DRIVER CLEANER bit I am now down to 1.2 FPS UGH!TurnipSystem Specs:Motherboard = P5-GL-MXP4 3.0SB Live 24MSI NVidia GeForce NX8800GT 512All BIOS Up To Date2 Gb Geil PC3200 Dual Channel RAMClean Install of VISTA HOME BASICWD 250 GB SATA 7200
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