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After installing the update I have a crash of panels.dll, this only happens when loading the 777 without loading the cessna first. SHould I still load the default first even with the patch?? And the aileron droop with flaps does not appear to be fixed in the patch. Why?

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Mike,A recent thread on the AVSIM general forum dicussed, at length, the requirement to load the default Cessna first. Thats not just a PSS thing. You will find that other addon developers ask the same thing. Nothing changed in that respect.Aileron droop with flaps? I'm not quite sure what you are asking here. Do you mean flaperons?

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All right thanks, I will be sure to use the default flight.I think the term I meant was flaperons, I am quite certain that the 777 flaperons droop with the flaps.

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So.... Pilot53,trying to get a rate on the MD and Tripple Seven at the same time ... ;-)

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Yep, load the cessan first... but, only saw the panels.dll error when I created a flight from the menue, but not always the error.When I load a saved flight, there is no problem. I guess you have to start where you left the 777 parked?JohanA LITTLE LESS CONVERSATION, AND A LITTLE MORE ACTION PLEASE!HELP:http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=238882

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I just want the developers to know I have never had a startup problem with my 777 and have never gone to the default Cessna first. I always start from Create a Flight and either go to the default airport (KSEA) or load a flight plan after selecting a PSS777. It's strange how it works for some and not others. Thanks for the update and great aircraft!Jim Young

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Mine starts up fine when I load the default cessna first, so that solves that problem.

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>I guess so, any update about the flaperons?I dont have an answer for you tonight Mike. I dont have much reference material here and the best person to ask is long since asleep. Don't forget that the pics you listed earlier are the 200 ER so there may be subtle differences.

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Jim,Generally the issue is when the default flight has been changed / deleted.

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>After installing the update I have a crash of panels.dll,>this only happens when loading the 777 without loading the>cessna first. SHould I still load the default first even with>the patch?? And the aileron droop with flaps does not appear>to be fixed in the patch. Why?I had this problem before the patch. One thing I found that if I run FS in full screen ALT-ENTER I would not get the panel.dll error. Keviniad_fo_777-3copy.png

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>Any news about the flaperons?Mike,I'm still not completely following you here. I can't watch the video since I don't allow any browser plugins on this machine. The thing you are asking about - is it on the leading or trailing edge since flaperons (two of them) are located between the inboard and outboard flaps on both wings, whilst you seem to be indicating to something on the wing tip.If you could clarify that would be great.

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I actually resarched this more closely and I am not so sure anymore that the flaperons actually droop with flaps, so I apologise for wasting your time if I was wrong. I do have a picture of something else That I noticed, the outboard aileron seems to be slanted.

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Mike,"...When parked on the ground, the Boeing 777 flaps are usually retracted and the ailerons on the outboard of the wings are not down unless the flaps are in the 5, 15 or 20 position..."The Boeing 777 has two flaperons located between the inboard and outboard flaps on both wings. Under normal circumstances, they are used for roll control but for increased lift, they move down and backward in proportion to flap extension.As to the second question, you will see that the shapes and sizes of wing components are inline with what is shown on this tech drawing of the B777-200LR wing.Hope this helps,http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/146599.jpg

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>The Boeing 777 has two flaperons located between the inboard and >outboard flaps on both wings. Under normal circumstances, they are used >for roll control but for increased lift, they move down and backward in >proportion to flap extension.They dont seem to move with flap retraction at all on my plane.And I'm not sure how the picture answers my second question, possibly you misread? Your wing is very good in reference to the shape. I meant the fact that when down the outermost aileron seems like its hanging unevenly as seen on my picture.

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>I meant the fact that when down the outermost>aileron seems like its hanging unevenly as seen on my>picture.Perhaps the pilot was commanding some rollA.G.

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Even if I were commanding roll they should still be attached to the rest of the wing.

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OK, since that picture does not display I thought you meant the KLM picture. ag

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>so I apologise for wasting your time No probs Mike.

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