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Hi, Is ASX (Not ASA) supposed to depict some weather over trans-oceanic flights given a flight plan and setting enhancedroute/virtual stations in ASX seettings? I got perfectly clear weather with no winds the entire time over the pacific at 34,000 ft? I also get this occasionally over the US as well. Isn't ASX supposed to fill in these spots with some type of weather?

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Hi Jim, Just to let you know that I had these options on before I started up ASX and FSX. I was the one who was having trouble getting ASX to put weather into FSX. I raised the time to 30 minutes and checked all the option (see logs attached). Keep in mind that this ASX and not ASA. I have to keep reminding because people are so wrapped up in ASA these days. I assume ASX has been patched of all major problems. Anyway this is my flight from KEWR-PHNL. 1) Some spots in the US just went clear with 0 winds at cruise2) The entire pacific (short of a station I passed over) was clear with no winds.3) My plane turned black on short final and my computer froze on me.I didn't hit weather until I got very close to Honolulu. I have attached the XEngine and ASA log files. See if it performing as expected. I thought it was resolved because I am getting weather at origin and destination but my quirks remain with what is above. i had all the options checked before I started ASX and so effectively I shut it down and restarted again as you mention in flightsim

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Hi,Jannier -- I have ASX with Win XP Firewall and no anti-virus. According to your thread I should not have a problem as you have the same firewall. Is there anything I need to do with Win XP firewall? I have the latest FSUIPC4 but not registered. Could this be the problem? I am not seeing anything there that could help meJim -- I decided to try a return flight doing everything you told me to do. I went from PHNL - KPHX and found the correct weather over PHNL but then as soon as I left PHNL the skies cleared with no wind at any altitude. When I approached another station (close to Maui), the weather returned but as I passed over and moved away from Maiu the weather cleared with no winds. Clear the rest of the way over the Pacific. As I approached Phoenix, I would get some weather over certain stations but in between it was clear. Then finally Phoenix was clear as well (should have had 5 knts wind out of the east). Again for some reason it is setting the global weather but not the individual stations. I feel you are leaving out this important find as it may indicate precisely where the problem lies. I have mentioned this quite a few times! Jannier might be correct where the problem (and most other problems you are experiencing with ASA and ASX) may be with Simconnect but i have no way of telling since there is no log for Simconnect. I have attached the ASX logs for the flight I describe above. Please advise. Flying with no weather is like swimming with no water!

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Hi Coops,I assume you are using SP2 or Acceleration for FSX?I am aware of a few other times with applications where communication of simconnect suddenly stopped, sometimes permanently or some time temporarily or sometimes partially.I am not a computer boffin but I would think that maybe simconnect sometimes might get "flooded" and then it "breaks" or because it uses TCP/IP to communicate, and something in that part of the OS goes belly up it could cause these strange malfunctions.RegardsJannie

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Hi Coops,I see where the smoothing is taking place and then it totally stops especially in flight 1.Let me reinstall my ASX and I'll re-create your flight.In the mean time, if you have FSUIPC4 installed, try with default settings and weather settings Off.Thanks,

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Hi Coops,I see where the smoothing is taking place and then it totally stops especially in flight 1.Let me reinstall my ASX and I'll re-create your flight.In the mean time, if you have FSUIPC4 installed, try with default settings and weather settings Off.Thanks,
Hi Jim, I have already tried this. I have the unregistered version and so I I first hit the deafult weather button and then I hit weather off. This clears all the weather even at the origin airport. I did not do this for the phnl-kphx flight but I have in the past to no avail. I have Win XP firewall but i can't imagine how this might be it. I have SP1 and SP2 without Accel. See if this is not happening to you on your recreated flight. Again there is an update to FSX being made but it is made in the GLOBAL setting and not the local setting although not at the origin airport. In this case it would not update the oceanic portion. Check this as you fly.

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Hi,Yep, with Wind Data Smoothing On the pseudo stations had no winds. This may be as designed.Thanks,

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Hi,Yep, with Wind Data Smoothing On the pseudo stations had no winds. This may be as designed.Thanks,
So you are saying to remove Wind Data Smoothing in order to get weather in between stations? It wasn't just winds..there were no clouds or any weather at all. Clear as a bell! If this is as designed, don't you believe this is a flaw? Are you the programmer?

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Hi,No I am not.Thanks,
This is your answer? Jim...I have a product that does not work and support that is pretty poor! You may have helped other people but I am getting none. You keep tossing this aside and giving up. I would appreciate a solution to my problem or I will enquire about a refund. I spent some hard earned money on this. If you can not figure it out then I expect you to go to 3rd level support (programmers) and get answers. They know the depth of how simconnect works and how my problem can be resolved. This is not a simple cloud problem. I HAVE NO WEATHER IN BETWEEN STATIONS AND MY DESTINATION.

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Hi,Please uncheck the Wind Data Smoothing option and see what you get on your set up now.Thanks,

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Jim, I tried this. This brough back my winds within flight but I am still not getting the correct weather for my destination. I turned off routing ioptions and I no longer set up a route in ASX. I tried that and weather is improving but I the destination is always whatever it wants to be. There is another recent Thread called "ASX Weather and FS Weather Different " on this site. This person is having the exact same problem I am with ASX. I have replied there as well with the GLOBAL vs Specific Station phenomenon I reported earlier. I believe this is key to solving the problem and I wonder if FSUPIC4.4 (unregistered) is interfering with ASX updating the sim correctly. Please read that thread and compare notes as the user rights back. BTW..my appologies for the above thread. Had a bad day and this added to my frustration. I vented on a Forum! Appreciate your help!

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Jim, I tried this. This brough back my winds within flight but I am still not getting the correct weather for my destination. I turned off routing ioptions and I no longer set up a route in ASX. I tried that and weather is improving but I the destination is always whatever it wants to be. There is another recent Thread called "ASX Weather and FS Weather Different " on this site. This person is having the exact same problem I am with ASX. I have replied there as well with the GLOBAL vs Specific Station phenomenon I reported earlier. I believe this is key to solving the problem and I wonder if FSUPIC4.4 (unregistered) is interfering with ASX updating the sim correctly. Please read that thread and compare notes as the user rights back. BTW..my appologies for the above thread. Had a bad day and this added to my frustration. I vented on a Forum! Appreciate your help!
hi coops,alright...let me nudge in...it doesn't matter whether i fly in global mode or station based mode or over land or over water i still get weather at all areas (even in between stations)...the reason being i use only Active Sky and FSX no other add-on program like FSUIPC, etc. which definitely creates conflicts. so the best option would be to remove FSUPIC completely (remove it, trash it and clean the registry); if necessary do a completer re-install of Active Sky and FSX without FSUIPC...this should take away most problems. as far as other minor problems are concerned such as unusual wind shifts, cloud popping, OOM,etc. there is a patch being worked on down the line. peace.regards,Ashwath.

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FSUIPC will not interfere with ASX or ASA in anyway as long as all weather options are switched off in the registered version of FSUIPC4. The free version of FSUIPC4 doesn't do anything as regards wind smoothing so you have nothing to worry about there.You also dont have to touch the registry to remove FSUIPC from your system, it doesn't touch the registry anyway. To uninstall FSUIPC4 all you have to do is remove the file FSUIPC4.dll from the modules folder which is inside the main FSX folder.

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Yes my next move was to remove FSUIPC4.4 from my environment. I also believe this is causing conflict. Something is changing my weather after ASX sets it and the only other thing with this capability is FSUPIC. I use the unregistered version and have tried "Shutting off all weather" but it has not helped. I am getting weather in between stations now that I have remove Wind Data Smoothing but my destination weather is always something random. BTW..I am using ASX and NOT ASA. Andydigital may be right but it's the only variable left to try. I also use Radar Contact but I can't see why this would interfere with weatehr but now that I think about it, RC requires FSUIPC so I guess I can't remove it unless I want to give that up. How the heck is this working for other people?I have ASX (patch v 4) with Win XP (SP2) and FSX patched with SP1 and SP2 (not accel). I have FSUIPC4.4 (unregistered) and I use Radar contact on the side. I use Win XP firewall and I have insured that FSX and ASX have access to the network. The paths specified to those exe's are correct. I have no antivirus program on my system.I have a relatively high end computer.Given the above specs does anyone find themselves in the same situtaion where they had to remove FSUIPC4.4 in order to get this to work. I would really hate to give up Radar Contact!

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I can guarantee you if you are using the unregistered version of FSUIPC it wont touch the weather in FSX at all. The only weather option in FSUIPC unregistered is to send a command to clear all the weather to the default standard i.e. 15C 1013mb CAVOK

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Why would they have the option to turn off the weather settings if it were not toucking it in the first place?

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Please do remind me then what weather options (other than one you mention) you can find in the unregistered version of FSUIPC4.

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Please do remind me then what weather options (other than one you mention) you can find in the unregistered version of FSUIPC4.
Not at home right now but if memory serves me correctly:Turn Weather setting offClear all weatherSet Default Weather

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Turn weather settings off is a redundant menu option in the free version of FSUIPC4 (i.e. the FSX version, FS9 has another version called FSUIPC3) the option is there and you can probably select it but it doesn't do anything. Weather smoothing and control facilities are only included in the paid for version of FSUIPC4.The other 2 options do pretty much the same thing as they both should set the weather to 15C 1013mb CAVOK regardless of which weather program injected the weather into FSX in the first place i.e. they clear the weather created by the default FSX weather engine or engines like ASA or REX etc.

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Understood. How do you explain the Global weather being set to ASX weather and the specific weather stations being set to the standard default weather after a bit? Why wouldn't ASX update both?

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