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PMDG 747 Posky 747v4 Panel Merge

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is there anyway to merge the the PMDG 747 panel with the project opensky 747v4 please reply thanks

Alexander Shepherd

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i can get everything working apart from the flaps going down to the correct line on the flap indicator and the autopilot does not connect you connect it and it disconnects any ideas please help thanks

Alexander Shepherd

I don't have either aircraft, but have merged a few. As far as the flaps go, did you change the POSKY cfg flaps sect. to the same as the PMDG? They may have different reference/points/angles. I've had to change/test until I got it right before. Is the PMDG AP a custom Gauge by PMDG? I can't imagine the model interfering with arming it. It may have certain pre-conditions such as avionics switch etc that have to be met before it will engage. I've read that you really have to be on top of procedures with the PMDG birds. I'm sure that applies to the panel...Good Luck...Don

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i used the posky aircraft.cfg and the pmdg panel.cfg i have no idea if you give me your email can i send you all the files so you can have a look please.

Alexander Shepherd

Do you have a copy of the PMDG aircraft.cfg?

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here you go the pmdg aircraft.cfg thanks[General]atc_type=BOEINGatc_model=B744editable=0performance="Cruise: 0.86 Mach/565 mph/910 km/h\nEngine: General Electric CF6-80C2B1F, Rolls Royce RB211 or Pratt & Whitney PW4000\nMaximum Range : 7,325 nm [13,570 km]\nMaximum Certified Altitude : 45,100 ft [13,747 m]\nFuel Capacity : 57,285 gal [216,840 L]\nBasic Operating Weight : 394,088 lb [178,755 kg]\nMax Gross Weight : 875,000 lb [396,893 kg]\nLength : 231 ft 10 in [70.6 m]\nWingspan : 211 ft 5 in [64.4 m]\nHeight : 63 ft 8 in [19.4 m]\nSeating : Typical 3-class configuration - 416\nTypical 2-class configuration - 524"[pitot_static]vertical_speed_time_constant = 99[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]empty_weight = 394088.0 // 3-Classmax_gross_weight = 875000.0 // 800, 833, 850, 870, 875 x 10^3 lbs [+2000 for max ramp]max_landing_weight = 630000.0 // 574, 630 x 10^3 lbsmax_zerofuel_weight = 542500.0 // 535, 542.5 x 10^3 lbsCG_forward_limit=0.130 // 11% 572000-775000 lbsCG_aft_limit=0.331 // WARNING : DO NOT EDIT !reference_datum_position = 112.714, 0.0, 5.502 // (feet) Boeing Section2.0 reference position (RefPos)empty_weight_CG_position = -97.85, 0, 0 // (feet) from RefPos 19.75% MACmax_number_of_stations = 50station_load.0 = 72600.0, -98.41, 0 ,0station_load.1 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.2 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.3 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.4 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.5 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.6 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation";Moments of Inertiaempty_weight_pitch_MOI = 17018677.379279empty_weight_roll_MOI = 15962454.863936empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 16890566.121607empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 2048.0[GeneralEngineData]engine_type = 1 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=TurbopropEngine.0 = -107.5, -53.3, -6.9 //(feet) from RefPosEngine.1 = -76.0, -30.0, -10.4 //(feet) from RefPosEngine.2 = -76.0, 30.0, -10.4 //(feet) from RefPosEngine.3 = -107.5, 53.3, -6.9 //(feet) from RefPosfuel_flow_scalar = 1.07 // sfc [...]min_throttle_limit = -0.20 // reverse[TurbineEngineData]//// Model : CF6-80C2B1F ~58K//fuel_flow_gain = 0.0036 //Gain on fuel flowinlet_area = 61.283 //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area [d=106 in]rated_N2_rpm = 13635.0 //max RPM HPCstatic_thrust = 58000.0 //Lbs, nominal SLS adjusted thru EECafterburner_available = 0 //Afterburner available?reverser_available = 1 //Thrust reverser available?[jet_engine]thrust_scalar = 1.0[fuel] // Combi/ER + optional stab (Center2)LeftAux = -112.0, -36.5, -3.0, 4482.0, 0.0 // Main 1LeftMain = -96.0, -28.0, -4.0, 12546.0, 0.0 // Main 2RightMain = -96.0, 28.0, -4.0, 12546.0, 0.0 // Main 3RightAux = -112.0, 36.5, -3.0, 4482.0, 0.0 // Main 4LeftTip = -130.0, -73.0, 0.0, 1322.0, 0.0 // R2RightTip = -130.0, 73.0, 0.0, 1322.0, 0.0 // R3Center1 = -83.5, 0.0, -7.0, 17164.0, 0.0 // CWTCenter2 = -193.5, 0.0, 6.0, 3300.0, 0.0 // STAB [Optional]Center3 = -83.5, 0.0, -7.0, 50.0, 0.0 // Otherfuel_type = 2 //Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetAnumber_of_tank_selectors = 4 electric_pump=0[airplane_geometry]wing_area = 5825.0 //Square feetwing_span = 211.4 //Feet [Jig Position (213.0 at full weight)]wing_root_chord = 47.298 //Feetwing_dihedral = 7.0 //Degreeswing_incidence = 0.0 //Degrees [inop in FS9]wing_twist = 0.0 //Degrees [inop in FS9]oswald_efficiency_factor = 0.504 //[...]wing_winglets_flag = 1 //Winglet flag [0:false/1:true]wing_sweep = 37.5 //Degrees at 25% MACwing_pos_apex_lon = -60.606 //Feet from RefPoswing_pos_apex_vert = 0.0 //Feet from RefPoshtail_area = 1470.0 //Square feethtail_span = 75.75 //Feethtail_pos_lon = -210.0 //Feet, from RefPoshtail_pos_vert = 7.32 //Feet, from RefPoshtail_incidence = 0.0 //Degrees [inop in FS9]htail_sweep = 37.5 //Degrees, horizontal tail leading edgevtail_area = 1060.0 //Square feetvtail_span = 37.1 //Feet, tip to bodyvtail_sweep = 45.0 //Degrees, vertical tail leading edgevtail_pos_lon = -198.5 //Feet from RefPosvtail_pos_vert = 26.1 //Feet from RefPoselevator_area = 342.0 //Square feetaileron_area = 225.0 //Square feetrudder_area = 230.0 //Square feetelevator_up_limit = 28.0 //Degreeselevator_down_limit = 20.0 //Degreesaileron_up_limit = 29.5 //Degreesaileron_down_limit = 27.5 //Degreesrudder_limit = 31.5 //Degreeselevator_trim_limit = 20.0 //Degreesspoiler_limit = 70.0 //Degreesspoilerons_available = 0 //Spoilerons Available?aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 3.2 //Aileron to spoileron gainmin_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 4.0 //Degreesmin_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0.0 //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate[Reference Speeds]flaps_up_stall_speed = 174.55 //Stall clean KTAS @450,000 lbsfull_flaps_stall_speed = 122.0 //Stall flaps KTAScruise_speed = 485.0 //Cruise KTASmax_mach = 0.920 //Barber pole MACHmax_indicated_speed = 372.0 // KIAS / modified provision for CAS->KIAS[flaps.0]type = 1 // Trailing edgespan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.00,280 // 1 - no TEflaps-position.2 = 25.0,260 // 5flaps-position.3 = 27.5,240 // 10flaps-position.4 = 30.0,230 // 20flaps-position.5 = 31.5,205 // 25flaps-position.6 = 33.0,180 // 30lift_scalar = 1.0drag_scalar = 0.1pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.1]type = 2 // Inboard/midboard leading edgespan-outboard = 0.53333 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 1.0 // 1damaging-speed = 275 // KIASblowout-speed = 280 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.88drag_scalar = 1.54pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.2]type = 2 // Outboard leading edgespan-outboard = 0.2666 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 10 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0 // 1 - no effectflaps-position.2 = 5.0 // 5damaging-speed = 255 // KIASblowout-speed = 260 // KIASlift_scalar = 1.0drag_scalar = 1.0pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.3]type = 2 // Correct 5-30 / TE LIFTspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 50 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.00flaps-position.2 = 25.0flaps-position.3 = 21.0flaps-position.4 = 16.1flaps-position.5 = 8.7flaps-position.6 = 4.7lift_scalar = -1.22drag_scalar = 0.00pitch_scalar = -0.12system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.4]type = 2 // Correct 10 / TE DRAGspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0flaps-position.2 = 0.0flaps-position.3 = 1.0flaps-position.4 = 0.1flaps-position.5 = 3.0lift_scalar = 0.00drag_scalar = -1.00pitch_scalar = 0.00system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.5]type = 2 // Correct 30 / TE DRAGspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0flaps-position.2 = 0.0flaps-position.3 = 0.0flaps-position.4 = 0.0flaps-position.5 = 0.0flaps-position.6 = 6.5lift_scalar = 0.00drag_scalar = 1.00pitch_scalar = 0.00system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.6]type = 1 // Modelspan-outboard = 0.7extending-time = 60 flaps-position.0 = 0.0flaps-position.1 = 1.0flaps-position.2 = 5.0flaps-position.3 = 10.0flaps-position.4 = 20.0flaps-position.5 = 25.0flaps-position.6 = 30.0lift_scalar = 0.0drag_scalar = 0.0pitch_scalar= 0.0system_type = 1[autopilot]autopilot_available = 0autothrottle_available = 0default_pitch_mode=0default_bank_mode=0//Do Not Alter the following line or your 747-400 may cease operating.[AFDSAuth]---BEGIN SHA1---036904E3202DA70E950ECD29714706B66084BC23A7AD0E6840A79704D01EBE667B3A06A29E8CE223CC8E0E0E00717C0D7D2EC4E37C4AC61B1189982389660B4C70302304529E1DEE7D67D618CE8C91239234051C80E46202BD0E93847B42D65EA1887523---END SHA1---// Do Not Alter the above lines.[contact_points]//point.0 = 1, -24.194, 0.000, -17.546, 1500.0, 0, 1.932, 56.0, 1.45, 0.128, 0.780, 9.0, 12.0, 0, 270, 320point.1 = 1, -102.496, -16.009, -18.941, 1500.0, 1, 1.932, 0.0, 1.54, 1.171, 0.880, 16.0, 21.0, 2, 270, 320point.2 = 1, -102.496, 16.009, -18.941, 1500.0, 2, 1.932, 0.0, 1.54, 1.171, 0.880, 15.0, 20.0, 3, 270, 320point.3 = 1, -115.277, -4.253, -18.598, 1700.0, 1, 1.932, 0.0, 1.50, 1.203, 0.820, 15.0, 18.0, 2, 270, 320point.4 = 1, -115.277, 4.253, -18.598, 1700.0, 1, 1.932, 0.0, 1.50, 1.203, 0.820, 15.0, 18.0, 2, 270, 320//point.5 = 2, -153.600, -103.500, 3.000, 1250.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0, 0point.6 = 2, -153.600, 103.500, 3.000, 1250.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0, 0point.7 = 2, -2.945, 0.000, -3.312, 1500.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0, 0point.8 = 2, -156.766, 0.000, -9.961, 1500.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0, 0static_pitch = -0.29static_cg_height = 12.09gear_system_type=0[gear_warning_system]gear_warning_available = 1 //Normalpct_throttle_limit = 0.1 //Percent throttle that activates warningflap_limit_idle = 5.0 //Flap angle that activates warning at idleflap_limit_power = 31.5 //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle[brakes]parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake availabletoe_brakes_scale = 0.78 //Brake scalar[hydraulic_system]normal_pressure = 3000.0 //PSIelectric_pumps = 0 //no electric pumpsengine_map = 1,1,1,1 //pumps on Eng1,2,3,4[Views]eyepoint = -19.100, -1.312, 11.122 ; Longitude, Latitude and Vertical position from Reference Point, (FEET)//eyepoint= -18.848, -1.312, 11.122[electrical] ;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)autopilot = 0, 5 , 17.0avionics_bus = 0, 5 , 17.0avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0gear_warning = 0, 2 , 17.0fuel_pump = 0, 5 , 17.0light_nav = 0, 5 , 17.0light_beacon = 0, 5 , 17.0light_landing = 0, 5 , 17.0light_taxi = 0, 5 , 17.0light_strobe = 0, 5 , 17.0light_panel = 0, 5 , 17.0[Radios]// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slopeAudio.1 = 1Com.1 = 1, 1Com.2 = 1, 1Nav.1 = 1, 1, 1Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0Adf.1 = 1Adf.2 = 1Transponder.1 = 1Marker.1 = 1[LIGHTS]light.0 = 3, -225.500, -0.50, 4.745, fx_navwhih, //Position Aftlight.1 = 2, -225.500, 0.50, 4.745, fx_strobeh, //Strobe Aftlight.2 = 1, -33.596, 0.00, 14.868, fx_pmdg744_beacon, //Beacon Toplight.3 = 1, -86.149, 0.00, -11.735, fx_pmdg744_beacon, //Beacon Bottomlight.4 = 9, -210.149, 8.00, 35.117, fx_pmdg744_logo, //Logo Rightlight.5 = 9, -210.149, -8.00, 35.117, fx_pmdg744_logo, //Logo Leftlight.6 = 8, -77.000, 26.00, -4.000, fx_pmdgwinglight, //Wing Rightlight.7 = 8, -77.000, -26.00, -4.000, fx_pmdgwinglight, //Wing Left[sMOKESYSTEM]smoke.0 = 0.00, -20.5, 0.00, fx_pmdg744_cockpit,[direction_indicators]//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4direction_indicator.0=3,0[attitude_indicators]//Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyroattitude_indicator.0 = 2 attitude_indicator.1 = 1 [turn_indicators]//Type: 0=None, 1=Electric Gyro, 2= Vacuum Gyroturn_indicator.0=0,0[keyboard_response]//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.elevator = 150, 250aileron = 150, 250rudder = 150, 250[EFFECTS]wake=fx_wakewater=fx_spraydirt=fx_tchdrtconcrete=fx_sparkstouchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1[sMOKESYSTEM]//Aileron tip vorteciessmoke.0=0, -127.167, -86.167, Opensky_vortexsmoke.1=0, -127.167, 86.167, Opensky_vortex//Wing condensationsmoke.2=0, -105.917, -39.167, Opensky_condensmoke.3=0, -105.917, 39.167, Opensky_conden[exits]number_of_exits = 2exit_rate.0 = 0.4 ;Percent per secondexit_rate.1 = 0.4 ;Percent per second[forcefeedback]gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsgear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsgear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degreesground_bumps_intercept1=3.0ground_bumps_slope1=0.20ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degreesground_bumps_intercept2=1.075ground_bumps_slope2=0.035crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degreescrash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degreescrash_period2=75000 ; in microsecondscrash_duration2=2500000 ; in microseconds[stall_warning]type=2 here you go the pmdg aircraft.cfg thanks[General]atc_type=BOEINGatc_model=B744editable=0performance="Cruise: 0.86 Mach/565 mph/910 km/h\nEngine: General Electric CF6-80C2B1F, Rolls Royce RB211 or Pratt & Whitney PW4000\nMaximum Range : 7,325 nm [13,570 km]\nMaximum Certified Altitude : 45,100 ft [13,747 m]\nFuel Capacity : 57,285 gal [216,840 L]\nBasic Operating Weight : 394,088 lb [178,755 kg]\nMax Gross Weight : 875,000 lb [396,893 kg]\nLength : 231 ft 10 in [70.6 m]\nWingspan : 211 ft 5 in [64.4 m]\nHeight : 63 ft 8 in [19.4 m]\nSeating : Typical 3-class configuration - 416\nTypical 2-class configuration - 524"[pitot_static]vertical_speed_time_constant = 99[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]empty_weight = 394088.0 // 3-Classmax_gross_weight = 875000.0 // 800, 833, 850, 870, 875 x 10^3 lbs [+2000 for max ramp]max_landing_weight = 630000.0 // 574, 630 x 10^3 lbsmax_zerofuel_weight = 542500.0 // 535, 542.5 x 10^3 lbsCG_forward_limit=0.130 // 11% 572000-775000 lbsCG_aft_limit=0.331 // WARNING : DO NOT EDIT !reference_datum_position = 112.714, 0.0, 5.502 // (feet) Boeing Section2.0 reference position (RefPos)empty_weight_CG_position = -97.85, 0, 0 // (feet) from RefPos 19.75% MACmax_number_of_stations = 50station_load.0 = 72600.0, -98.41, 0 ,0station_load.1 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.2 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.3 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.4 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.5 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"station_load.6 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation";Moments of Inertiaempty_weight_pitch_MOI = 17018677.379279empty_weight_roll_MOI = 15962454.863936empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 16890566.121607empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 2048.0[GeneralEngineData]engine_type = 1 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=TurbopropEngine.0 = -107.5, -53.3, -6.9 //(feet) from RefPosEngine.1 = -76.0, -30.0, -10.4 //(feet) from RefPosEngine.2 = -76.0, 30.0, -10.4 //(feet) from RefPosEngine.3 = -107.5, 53.3, -6.9 //(feet) from RefPosfuel_flow_scalar = 1.07 // sfc [...]min_throttle_limit = -0.20 // reverse[TurbineEngineData]//// Model : CF6-80C2B1F ~58K//fuel_flow_gain = 0.0036 //Gain on fuel flowinlet_area = 61.283 //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area [d=106 in]rated_N2_rpm = 13635.0 //max RPM HPCstatic_thrust = 58000.0 //Lbs, nominal SLS adjusted thru EECafterburner_available = 0 //Afterburner available?reverser_available = 1 //Thrust reverser available?[jet_engine]thrust_scalar = 1.0[fuel] // Combi/ER + optional stab (Center2)LeftAux = -112.0, -36.5, -3.0, 4482.0, 0.0 // Main 1LeftMain = -96.0, -28.0, -4.0, 12546.0, 0.0 // Main 2RightMain = -96.0, 28.0, -4.0, 12546.0, 0.0 // Main 3RightAux = -112.0, 36.5, -3.0, 4482.0, 0.0 // Main 4LeftTip = -130.0, -73.0, 0.0, 1322.0, 0.0 // R2RightTip = -130.0, 73.0, 0.0, 1322.0, 0.0 // R3Center1 = -83.5, 0.0, -7.0, 17164.0, 0.0 // CWTCenter2 = -193.5, 0.0, 6.0, 3300.0, 0.0 // STAB [Optional]Center3 = -83.5, 0.0, -7.0, 50.0, 0.0 // Otherfuel_type = 2 //Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetAnumber_of_tank_selectors = 4 electric_pump=0[airplane_geometry]wing_area = 5825.0 //Square feetwing_span = 211.4 //Feet [Jig Position (213.0 at full weight)]wing_root_chord = 47.298 //Feetwing_dihedral = 7.0 //Degreeswing_incidence = 0.0 //Degrees [inop in FS9]wing_twist = 0.0 //Degrees [inop in FS9]oswald_efficiency_factor = 0.504 //[...]wing_winglets_flag = 1 //Winglet flag [0:false/1:true]wing_sweep = 37.5 //Degrees at 25% MACwing_pos_apex_lon = -60.606 //Feet from RefPoswing_pos_apex_vert = 0.0 //Feet from RefPoshtail_area = 1470.0 //Square feethtail_span = 75.75 //Feethtail_pos_lon = -210.0 //Feet, from RefPoshtail_pos_vert = 7.32 //Feet, from RefPoshtail_incidence = 0.0 //Degrees [inop in FS9]htail_sweep = 37.5 //Degrees, horizontal tail leading edgevtail_area = 1060.0 //Square feetvtail_span = 37.1 //Feet, tip to bodyvtail_sweep = 45.0 //Degrees, vertical tail leading edgevtail_pos_lon = -198.5 //Feet from RefPosvtail_pos_vert = 26.1 //Feet from RefPoselevator_area = 342.0 //Square feetaileron_area = 225.0 //Square feetrudder_area = 230.0 //Square feetelevator_up_limit = 28.0 //Degreeselevator_down_limit = 20.0 //Degreesaileron_up_limit = 29.5 //Degreesaileron_down_limit = 27.5 //Degreesrudder_limit = 31.5 //Degreeselevator_trim_limit = 20.0 //Degreesspoiler_limit = 70.0 //Degreesspoilerons_available = 0 //Spoilerons Available?aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 3.2 //Aileron to spoileron gainmin_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 4.0 //Degreesmin_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0.0 //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate[Reference Speeds]flaps_up_stall_speed = 174.55 //Stall clean KTAS @450,000 lbsfull_flaps_stall_speed = 122.0 //Stall flaps KTAScruise_speed = 485.0 //Cruise KTASmax_mach = 0.920 //Barber pole MACHmax_indicated_speed = 372.0 // KIAS / modified provision for CAS->KIAS[flaps.0]type = 1 // Trailing edgespan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.00,280 // 1 - no TEflaps-position.2 = 25.0,260 // 5flaps-position.3 = 27.5,240 // 10flaps-position.4 = 30.0,230 // 20flaps-position.5 = 31.5,205 // 25flaps-position.6 = 33.0,180 // 30lift_scalar = 1.0drag_scalar = 0.1pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.1]type = 2 // Inboard/midboard leading edgespan-outboard = 0.53333 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 1.0 // 1damaging-speed = 275 // KIASblowout-speed = 280 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.88drag_scalar = 1.54pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.2]type = 2 // Outboard leading edgespan-outboard = 0.2666 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 10 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0 // 1 - no effectflaps-position.2 = 5.0 // 5damaging-speed = 255 // KIASblowout-speed = 260 // KIASlift_scalar = 1.0drag_scalar = 1.0pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.3]type = 2 // Correct 5-30 / TE LIFTspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 50 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.00flaps-position.2 = 25.0flaps-position.3 = 21.0flaps-position.4 = 16.1flaps-position.5 = 8.7flaps-position.6 = 4.7lift_scalar = -1.22drag_scalar = 0.00pitch_scalar = -0.12system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.4]type = 2 // Correct 10 / TE DRAGspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0flaps-position.2 = 0.0flaps-position.3 = 1.0flaps-position.4 = 0.1flaps-position.5 = 3.0lift_scalar = 0.00drag_scalar = -1.00pitch_scalar = 0.00system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.5]type = 2 // Correct 30 / TE DRAGspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0flaps-position.2 = 0.0flaps-position.3 = 0.0flaps-position.4 = 0.0flaps-position.5 = 0.0flaps-position.6 = 6.5lift_scalar = 0.00drag_scalar = 1.00pitch_scalar = 0.00system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.6]type = 1 // Modelspan-outboard = 0.7extending-time = 60 flaps-position.0 = 0.0flaps-position.1 = 1.0flaps-position.2 = 5.0flaps-position.3 = 10.0flaps-position.4 = 20.0flaps-position.5 = 25.0flaps-position.6 = 30.0lift_scalar = 0.0drag_scalar = 0.0pitch_scalar= 0.0system_type = 1[autopilot]autopilot_available = 0autothrottle_available = 0default_pitch_mode=0default_bank_mode=0//Do Not Alter the following line or your 747-400 may cease operating.[AFDSAuth]---BEGIN SHA1---036904E3202DA70E950ECD29714706B66084BC23A7AD0E6840A79704D01EBE667B3A06A29E8CE223CC8E0E0E00717C0D7D2EC4E37C4AC61B1189982389660B4C70302304529E1DEE7D67D618CE8C91239234051C80E46202BD0E93847B42D65EA1887523---END SHA1---// Do Not Alter the above lines.[contact_points]//point.0 = 1, -24.194, 0.000, -17.546, 1500.0, 0, 1.932, 56.0, 1.45, 0.128, 0.780, 9.0, 12.0, 0, 270, 320point.1 = 1, -102.496, -16.009, -18.941, 1500.0, 1, 1.932, 0.0, 1.54, 1.171, 0.880, 16.0, 21.0, 2, 270, 320point.2 = 1, -102.496, 16.009, -18.941, 1500.0, 2, 1.932, 0.0, 1.54, 1.171, 0.880, 15.0, 20.0, 3, 270, 320point.3 = 1, -115.277, -4.253, -18.598, 1700.0, 1, 1.932, 0.0, 1.50, 1.203, 0.820, 15.0, 18.0, 2, 270, 320point.4 = 1, -115.277, 4.253, -18.598, 1700.0, 1, 1.932, 0.0, 1.50, 1.203, 0.820, 15.0, 18.0, 2, 270, 320//point.5 = 2, -153.600, -103.500, 3.000, 1250.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0, 0point.6 = 2, -153.600, 103.500, 3.000, 1250.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0, 0point.7 = 2, -2.945, 0.000, -3.312, 1500.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0, 0point.8 = 2, -156.766, 0.000, -9.961, 1500.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0, 0static_pitch = -0.29static_cg_height = 12.09gear_system_type=0[gear_warning_system]gear_warning_available = 1 //Normalpct_throttle_limit = 0.1 //Percent throttle that activates warningflap_limit_idle = 5.0 //Flap angle that activates warning at idleflap_limit_power = 31.5 //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle[brakes]parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake availabletoe_brakes_scale = 0.78 //Brake scalar[hydraulic_system]normal_pressure = 3000.0 //PSIelectric_pumps = 0 //no electric pumpsengine_map = 1,1,1,1 //pumps on Eng1,2,3,4[Views]eyepoint = -19.100, -1.312, 11.122 ; Longitude, Latitude and Vertical position from Reference Point, (FEET)//eyepoint= -18.848, -1.312, 11.122[electrical] ;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)autopilot = 0, 5 , 17.0avionics_bus = 0, 5 , 17.0avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0gear_warning = 0, 2 , 17.0fuel_pump = 0, 5 , 17.0light_nav = 0, 5 , 17.0light_beacon = 0, 5 , 17.0light_landing = 0, 5 , 17.0light_taxi = 0, 5 , 17.0light_strobe = 0, 5 , 17.0light_panel = 0, 5 , 17.0[Radios]// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slopeAudio.1 = 1Com.1 = 1, 1Com.2 = 1, 1Nav.1 = 1, 1, 1Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0Adf.1 = 1Adf.2 = 1Transponder.1 = 1Marker.1 = 1[LIGHTS]light.0 = 3, -225.500, -0.50, 4.745, fx_navwhih, //Position Aftlight.1 = 2, -225.500, 0.50, 4.745, fx_strobeh, //Strobe Aftlight.2 = 1, -33.596, 0.00, 14.868, fx_pmdg744_beacon, //Beacon Toplight.3 = 1, -86.149, 0.00, -11.735, fx_pmdg744_beacon, //Beacon Bottomlight.4 = 9, -210.149, 8.00, 35.117, fx_pmdg744_logo, //Logo Rightlight.5 = 9, -210.149, -8.00, 35.117, fx_pmdg744_logo, //Logo Leftlight.6 = 8, -77.000, 26.00, -4.000, fx_pmdgwinglight, //Wing Rightlight.7 = 8, -77.000, -26.00, -4.000, fx_pmdgwinglight, //Wing Left[sMOKESYSTEM]smoke.0 = 0.00, -20.5, 0.00, fx_pmdg744_cockpit,[direction_indicators]//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4direction_indicator.0=3,0[attitude_indicators]//Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyroattitude_indicator.0 = 2 attitude_indicator.1 = 1 [turn_indicators]//Type: 0=None, 1=Electric Gyro, 2= Vacuum Gyroturn_indicator.0=0,0[keyboard_response]//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.elevator = 150, 250aileron = 150, 250rudder = 150, 250[EFFECTS]wake=fx_wakewater=fx_spraydirt=fx_tchdrtconcrete=fx_sparkstouchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1[sMOKESYSTEM]//Aileron tip vorteciessmoke.0=0, -127.167, -86.167, Opensky_vortexsmoke.1=0, -127.167, 86.167, Opensky_vortex//Wing condensationsmoke.2=0, -105.917, -39.167, Opensky_condensmoke.3=0, -105.917, 39.167, Opensky_conden[exits]number_of_exits = 2exit_rate.0 = 0.4 ;Percent per secondexit_rate.1 = 0.4 ;Percent per second[forcefeedback]gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsgear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsgear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degreesground_bumps_intercept1=3.0ground_bumps_slope1=0.20ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degreesground_bumps_intercept2=1.075ground_bumps_slope2=0.035crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degreescrash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degreescrash_period2=75000 ; in microsecondscrash_duration2=2500000 ; in microseconds[stall_warning]type=2

Alexander Shepherd

OK! Ha-Ha, I didn't need the whole thing :( but I'll put it my archives. It looks like the PMDG didn't have an AP configured in the file and as I suspected, the flaps are very detailed. Post just the [autopilot] and [flaps.0]-[flaps.?] sections of the POSKY. Maybe I can fix those...Don

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here you go posky flaps and autopilot thanks again[flaps.0]type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 25 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 5 // degreesflaps-position.2 = 10 // degreesflaps-position.3 = 15 // degreesflaps-position.4 = 20 // degreesflaps-position.5 = 25 // degreesflaps-position.6 = 30 // degreesdamaging-speed = 200 // KIASblowout-speed = 250 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.1]type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.2 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 25 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 5 // degreesflaps-position.2 = 10 // degreesflaps-position.3 = 15 // degreesflaps-position.4 = 20 // degreesflaps-position.5 = 25 // degreesflaps-position.6 = 30 // degreesdamaging-speed = 200 // KIASblowout-speed = 250 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.2]type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 20.0 // degreesdamaging-speed = 250 // KIASblowout-speed = 300 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.3]type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.5 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 20 // degreesdamaging-speed = 250 // KIASblowout-speed = 300 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.4]type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.2 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 10 // degreesflaps-position.2 = 20.0 // degreesdamaging-speed = 250 // KIASblowout-speed = 300 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[autopilot]autopilot_available=1flight_director_available=1default_vertical_speed=800.000000autothrottle_available=1autothrottle_arming_required=1autothrottle_takeoff_ga=1autothrottle_max_rpm=105.000000pitch_takeoff_ga=8.000000use_no_default_pitch = 1 // 0 = Default to current pitch mode, 1 = No default pitch mode.use_no_default_bank = 1 // 0 = Default to Wing Leveler mode, 1 = No default bank mode.default_pitch_mode=0default_bank_mode=0max_pitch=10.000000max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000max_bank=25.000000max_bank_acceleration=1.800000max_bank_velocity=3.000000max_throttle_rate=0.100000nav_proportional_control=9.000000nav_integrator_control=0.250000nav_derivative_control=0.000000nav_integrator_boundary=2.500000nav_derivative_boundary=0.000000gs_proportional_control=9.520000gs_integrator_control=0.260000gs_derivative_control=0.000000gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000yaw_damper_gain=0.000000

Alexander Shepherd

You could try using all of the PMDG [flaps.0]-[flaps.6] but the lift/drag scalings are a lot different. The simplest way to make the flaps gauge line up is to change [flaps.0] and [flaps.1] flaps-position.6 = 30 // degrees to: flaps-position.6 = 33 // degrees. Make the change, verify the gauge now works correctly, and test fly to check full flaps doesn't mess up flight dynamics.As for the autopilot it looks like the PMDG AP is embedded in the FMC. You can try replacing the POSKY [autopilot] with the PMDG and add what looks like Automated Flight Director System. I don't know what it does, but thought it might be worth a try.CHANGE THIS:[autopilot]autopilot_available = 0autothrottle_available = 0default_pitch_mode=0default_bank_mode=0ADD THIS://Do Not Alter the following line or your 747-400 may cease operating.[AFDSAuth]---BEGIN SHA1---036904E3202DA70E950ECD29714706B66084BC23A7AD0E6840A79704D01EBE667B3A06A29E8CE223CC8E0E0E00717C0D7D2EC4E37C4AC61B1189982389660B4C70302304529E1DEE7D67D618CE8C91239234051C80E46202BD0E93847B42D65EA1887523---END SHA1---// Do Not Alter the above lines.If all else fails you may have to add a default autopilot gauge to a new panel window or blank area of an existing panel...Don

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the auto pilot doesnt work it works when i use the pmdg aircraft.cfg but the wheels are in the ground and the lights are messed up though do you think you could post the flap section i don understand what you mean please thanks.

Alexander Shepherd

Lets do the Flaps First. Open the POSKY aircraft.cfg (the one you are going to use)REMOVE THIS:[flaps.0]type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 25 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 5 // degreesflaps-position.2 = 10 // degreesflaps-position.3 = 15 // degreesflaps-position.4 = 20 // degreesflaps-position.5 = 25 // degreesflaps-position.6 = 30 // degreesdamaging-speed = 200 // KIASblowout-speed = 250 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.1]type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.2 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 25 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 5 // degreesflaps-position.2 = 10 // degreesflaps-position.3 = 15 // degreesflaps-position.4 = 20 // degreesflaps-position.5 = 25 // degreesflaps-position.6 = 30 // degreesdamaging-speed = 200 // KIASblowout-speed = 250 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.2]type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 20.0 // degreesdamaging-speed = 250 // KIASblowout-speed = 300 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.3]type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.5 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 20 // degreesdamaging-speed = 250 // KIASblowout-speed = 300 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.4]type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard = 0.2 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // degreesflaps-position.1 = 10 // degreesflaps-position.2 = 20.0 // degreesdamaging-speed = 250 // KIASblowout-speed = 300 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.28drag_scalar = 0.40pitch_scalar= 0.40system_type = 1 //HydraulicPASTE THIS in its place:[flaps.0]type = 1 // Trailing edgespan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.00,280 // 1 - no TEflaps-position.2 = 25.0,260 // 5flaps-position.3 = 27.5,240 // 10flaps-position.4 = 30.0,230 // 20flaps-position.5 = 31.5,205 // 25flaps-position.6 = 33.0,180 // 30lift_scalar = 1.0drag_scalar = 0.1pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.1]type = 2 // Inboard/midboard leading edgespan-outboard = 0.53333 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 12 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 1.0 // 1damaging-speed = 275 // KIASblowout-speed = 280 // KIASlift_scalar = 0.88drag_scalar = 1.54pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.2]type = 2 // Outboard leading edgespan-outboard = 0.2666 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 10 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0 // 1 - no effectflaps-position.2 = 5.0 // 5damaging-speed = 255 // KIASblowout-speed = 260 // KIASlift_scalar = 1.0drag_scalar = 1.0pitch_scalar= 1.0system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.3]type = 2 // Correct 5-30 / TE LIFTspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 50 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.00flaps-position.2 = 25.0flaps-position.3 = 21.0flaps-position.4 = 16.1flaps-position.5 = 8.7flaps-position.6 = 4.7lift_scalar = -1.22drag_scalar = 0.00pitch_scalar = -0.12system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.4]type = 2 // Correct 10 / TE DRAGspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0flaps-position.2 = 0.0flaps-position.3 = 1.0flaps-position.4 = 0.1flaps-position.5 = 3.0lift_scalar = 0.00drag_scalar = -1.00pitch_scalar = 0.00system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.5]type = 2 // Correct 30 / TE DRAGspan-outboard = 0.7 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time = 60 // secondsflaps-position.0 = 0 // pseudo-degreesflaps-position.1 = 0.0flaps-position.2 = 0.0flaps-position.3 = 0.0flaps-position.4 = 0.0flaps-position.5 = 0.0flaps-position.6 = 6.5lift_scalar = 0.00drag_scalar = 1.00pitch_scalar = 0.00system_type = 1 //Hydraulic[flaps.6]type = 1 // Modelspan-outboard = 0.7extending-time = 60 flaps-position.0 = 0.0flaps-position.1 = 1.0flaps-position.2 = 5.0flaps-position.3 = 10.0flaps-position.4 = 20.0flaps-position.5 = 25.0flaps-position.6 = 30.0lift_scalar = 0.0drag_scalar = 0.0pitch_scalar= 0.0system_type = 1Test it and get back to me...Don

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the flaps do not go past flaps 1 any ideas about the autopilot aswell thanks.

Alexander Shepherd

When you put the PMDG aircraft.cfg in the plane it messed up the contact points etc, but the AP worked.I think the PMDG AP is embedded in [AFDSAuth].Replace all of the POSKY [autopilot] section with this:[autopilot]autopilot_available = 0autothrottle_available = 0default_pitch_mode=0default_bank_mode=0[AFDSAuth]---BEGIN SHA1---036904E3202DA70E950ECD29714706B66084BC23A7AD0E6840A79704D01EBE667B3A06A29E8CE223CC8E0E0E00717C0D7D2EC4E37C4AC61B1189982389660B4C70302304529E1DEE7D67D618CE8C91239234051C80E46202BD0E93847B42D65EA1887523---END SHA1---Put the flaps back to POSKYchange in sections [flaps.0] and [flaps.1] "only"from: flaps-position.6 = 30 // degreesto: flaps-position.6 = 33 // degreesWe'll get there sooner or later!...Don

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so only have 4 flap positions the autopilot still doesnt work maybe we should use the pmdg aircraft.cfg what do you think

Alexander Shepherd

Sorry I wasn't much help. It takes a lot of changing things around and testing. If its worth it to you, put the PMDG in and Fly it and Look at it. Spend some time examining the flight dynamics in all phases of flight. Make note of everything that is wrong, lights, contact Points, flight handling, everything. Now that you have changed the flaps and the autopilot sections a few times, you know how do the same thing with the contact points, lights etc. Don't be afraid to experiment! You can always change it back. I make a copy of every change that worked and name it in order, aircraft1A, aircraft1B etc, if it doesn't work I can go back to the last one, even years later. I also make a list of changes that didn't work, so I don't make the same mistakes twice. It can get really tedious, be patient. Let me know how it goes...Good Luck...Don

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