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No SID/STARS after re-install on Win7

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Hello Everyone,I keep running into this problem no matter what. Can't find the answer in here so I’m desperate for help.Had a broken HD so bought a new one. Made a fresh install of Win7 (critical files luckily backed up) but not FS9 and add-ons. So I performed a "clean install" of FS9 and all add-ons.Chain of events:(All tasks below are installed via Administrator permission)

  • Installation FS9 no probs, working fine.(checked after install)
  • Installation PMDG(737NG & 747-400) & PSS B777 no probs, working fine(checked after install)
  • Installation AIRAC 1103 for PMDG & PSS as it should install.
  • Startup and loading PMDG & PSS aircraft in FS9 no probs. all working fine.
  • FMC PMDG 737 & 747 & PSS B777 shows cycle 1103 installed.

From here on the probs start.When creating a flight from any (major)airport:

  • No SID's available in FMC from departing airport.(even some reports of runway unknown)
  • No STAR's available in FMC for arrival airport.( Runway’s known but no STARS to them)

Very weird and can't plot a flight into the FMC because the lack of SID/STAR's.All help, tips & tricks will be much appreciated!With kind regards,MennoThe Netherlands

I see the same post further down but I'll paste in my reply from there. Did you see it?The path to the sid/stars data is under your FS9 folder. Look under your FS9 folder for a PMDG folder and a SIDSTARS folder under that. There should be a number of .txt files, one for each airport that has such data.I can't remember the format of the Navigraph FMC download (if that's what you use). If it is an .exe installer in Win 7 you need to run it by right clicking on it and select the property to run as admin. If it is an auto install and gets your FS9 path from the registry check your registry entry with this free tool from Flight 1 also running it with Run As Admin properties by right clicking on it:http://www.flight1.c...sp?page=libraryFSX/FS9 Registry Repair Tool (36KB)If it is .zip file provided with .txt files you may need to be an admin type user to unzip it into the folder mentioned.You may also need but it should not be necessary to set up a shortcut to FS and in the advanced properties set FS to Run As Admin.See if this helps.Welcome to Win 7 protection. FYI - Turning off UAC in Win 7 does not turn off all Win 7 user access security.If you still have problems post here on AVSIM in the PMDG forum General Section since this folder arrangement is common to many of their models.

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Hello Ron,Thnxs for your reply.Already performed the "solutions" you mentioned. Still, Although FMC clearly state : Airac 1103 installed, I have no SID's & STAR's available to choose from.Dep. Rwy, selected ok and recognised but at LSK1 it says: SID<none>Same at Arival.Rwy. (after plottng the fllight. All waypoinsts recognised properly in FMC)Arival Rwy selected ok and recognised but STAR<none>By the way, the link you provided me with does not work.Anyway, it seems I'm grounded :(

http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=libraryis working for me right now :) Go to flight1.com, then click on the Free File Library, then download the registry repair utility.Do you have any .txt files in your PMDG/SIDSTARS folder?Not all airports in the navigraph terminal procedures had SIDs and STARs. But you say none of your airports have them, right? What airports have you tried? If you have the airport .txt files in your PMDG folder open one of those that fail you and see if SIDs and/or STARs are included in the airport .txt file.Here's a sample of KMSP.txt from a different source as noted in the text pasted below. Note this is the runway source also:------------------------// KMSP - MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL INTL// Derived from NFD/NATS cycle 1013.// With Holds Version//// Copyright 40528 by Terry Yingling// http://PlanePath.com// These procedures must not be sold or included// with a product for sale unless authorized by// me in writing before the fact.//// Read the '_Read This First.txt' file for// copyright restrictions.FIXESFIX AABEZ LATLON N 44 47.419 W 93 .59FIX AASUN LATLON N 44 54.779 W 93 16.04FIX ABR LATLON N 45 25.042 W 98 22.123FIX AHMIT LATLON N 44 29.877 W 93 11.711FIX ALGIN LATLON N 45 .036 W 93 28.251FIX ALO LATLON N 42 33.388 W 92 23.937FIX ARREX LATLON N 44 25.544 W 94 8.567FIX AXN LATLON N 45 57.503 W 95 13.958FIX BAE LATLON N 43 7.012 W 88 17.06FIX BEERI LATLON N 43 46.15 W 89 24.837FIX BITLR LATLON N 44 53.043 W 92 19.443FIX BONNA LATLON N 44 46.371 W 92 56.682FIX BOTNE LATLON N 44 56.05 W 94 1.517FIX BRD LATLON N 46 20.893 W 94 1.553FIX BROTA LATLON N 44 13.23 W 92 40.271FIX CCJAY LATLON N 45 3.022 W 93 35.228FIX CORDY LATLON N 44 7.422 W 92 49.789FIX COULT LATLON N 44 33.397 W 92 12.506FIX DBQ LATLON N 42 24.088 W 90 42.545FIX DELZY LATLON N 44 13.916 W 93 13.272FIX DLL LATLON N 43 33.052 W 89 45.815FIX DOKTR LATLON N 44 15.485 W 92 55.349FIX DWIYT LATLON N 45 18.203 W 92 17.254FIX DWN LATLON N 45 5.248 W 94 27.232FIX EAGAN LATLON N 44 51.318 W 93 9.55FIX EAU LATLON N 44 53.86 W 91 28.713FIX EPEWU LATLON N 44 54.229 W 93 11.635FIX EYHUX LATLON N 42 26.134 W 95 1.163FIX FAR LATLON N 46 45.203 W 96 51.08FIX FASRO LATLON N 44 55.245 W 93 17.118FIX FATES LATLON N 45 1.518 W 93 1.339FIX FCM LATLON N 44 49.543 W 93 27.405FIX FGT LATLON N 44 37.857 W 93 10.923FIX FOBUG LATLON N 44 25.333 W 93 2.178FIX FOD LATLON N 42 36.667 W 94 17.688FIX FUDGE LATLON N 45 4.054 W 93 34.863FIX GEP LATLON N 45 8.742 W 93 22.392FIX GOLLF LATLON N 45 45.218 W 93 41.97FIX GOOLD LATLON N 42 57.515 W 94 42.851FIX GRB LATLON N 44 33.31 W 88 11.692FIX GROVZ LATLON N 44 43.348 W 92 49.773FIX HAMML LATLON N 44 58.505 W 93 24.687FIX HASTI LATLON N 44 42.849 W 92 50.148FIX HERMI LATLON N 45 1 W 92 6.841FIX HOMUR LATLON N 45 25.093 W 94 4.608FIX HRBEK LATLON N 45 18.872 W 93 48.42FIX HUGIR LATLON N 44 42.072 W 93 36.954FIX HUSHH LATLON N 44 50.303 W 93 13.766FIX IAPL LATLON N 44 53.669 W 93 12.423FIX IGEPY LATLON N 44 49.458 W 93 18.341FIX INUNE LATLON N 45 1.007 W 93 59.539FIX JACKO LATLON N 44 49.482 W 93 3.819FIX JAEDN LATLON N 44 47.336 W 93 43.59FIX JAGOW LATLON N 43 30.888 W 93 17.413FIX JALUN LATLON N 44 57.253 W 93 7.37FIX JAMEZ LATLON N 44 34.012 W 93 9.561FIX JEDET LATLON N 44 27.677 W 92 43.677FIX JOGTO LATLON N 44 50.08 W 93 17.467FIX JURNY LATLON N 44 36.519 W 93 28.342FIX KASPR LATLON N 43 57.929 W 93 14.823FIX KBREW LATLON N 45 35.061 W 94 30.887FIX KETAM LATLON N 44 44.947 W 93 24.647FIX KGEEE LATLON N 43 44.942 W 93 30.475FIX KINNS LATLON N 44 56.633 W 93 21.841FIX KRSPY LATLON N 44 17.785 W 90 21.612FIX KUUGL LATLON N 44 56.904 W 94 21.277FIX LEINY LATLON N 45 2.267 W 97 36.667FIX LMFRY LATLON N 44 22.244 W 91 51.028FIX LOAFR LATLON N 44 28.172 W 92 58.796FIX LOOON LATLON N 44 58.922 W 92 42.679FIX LORAH LATLON N 44 45.556 W 93 12.537FIX LYDIA LATLON N 44 36.49 W 93 28.737FIX LYNKS LATLON N 44 6.892 W 93 28.395FIX MCONL LATLON N 44 35.005 W 93 50.538FIX MCW LATLON N 43 5.685 W 93 19.792FIX MONKY LATLON N 44 51.152 W 93 26.292FIX MSP LATLON N 44 53.79 W 93 14.192FIX NARCO LATLON N 44 48.987 W 93 4.187FIX NICKL LATLON N 44 45.322 W 91 49.504FIX NORWD LATLON N 44 44.913 W 93 54.454FIX OBERR LATLON N 44 36.833 W 93 10.286FIX OBH LATLON N 41 22.543 W 98 21.215FIX ODI LATLON N 43 54.74 W 91 28.052FIX OLLEE LATLON N 45 32.132 W 93 34.892FIX ONL LATLON N 42 28.23 W 98 41.215FIX ONTIJ LATLON N 43 17.858 W 94 30.774FIX ORSKY LATLON N 43 40.185 W 94 13.382FIX OTG LATLON N 43 38.815 W 95 34.918FIX OVR LATLON N 41 10.037 W 95 44.203FIX PAETN LATLON N 45 2.708 W 93 35.997FIX PAGOZ LATLON N 45 11.293 W 94 17.264FIX PAKKR LATLON N 44 45.865 W 90 5.152FIX PEDLN LATLON N 44 12.16 W 93 48.023FIX PEPPR LATLON N 44 22.893 W 93 12.396FIX PEYOG LATLON N 44 50.925 W 93 8.645FIX PIGZI LATLON N 44 45.874 W 92 57.054FIX PINKE LATLON N 44 44.352 W 92 53.574FIX PRESS LATLON N 44 42.679 W 92 41.225FIX PUMKN LATLON N 41 50.539 W 95 21.523FIX ROBBY LATLON N 44 4.547 W 89 57.627FIX ROZEE LATLON N 44 42.603 W 93 11.773FIX RST LATLON N 43 46.972 W 92 35.815FIX RUMLE LATLON N 44 25.277 W 93 37.465FIX RWF LATLON N 44 28.037 W 95 7.693FIX SAMMZ LATLON N 44 47.916 W 93 .221FIX SAUGR LATLON N 45 20.907 W 93 28.87FIX SCHEP LATLON N 44 14.837 W 94 28.728FIX SHONN LATLON N 44 41.607 W 94 9.139FIX SHUZE LATLON N 44 21.453 W 92 50.442FIX SIMJI LATLON N 42 49.56 W 94 47.522FIX SKETR LATLON N 44 38.566 W 94 22.488FIX SMERF LATLON N 45 55.264 W 97 34.138FIX SNINE LATLON N 45 15.113 W 92 39.048FIX SSTAR LATLON N 44 39.696 W 93 11.023FIX TAXEE LATLON N 44 42.155 W 92 29.559FIX TICKT LATLON N 42 53.706 W 93 59.005FIX TONCA LATLON N 44 54.96 W 93 38.025FIX TRGET LATLON N 44 13.876 W 93 27.728FIX TWINZ LATLON N 45 2.928 W 92 17.361FIX TWOLF LATLON N 43 17.002 W 93 33.086FIX UBTYA LATLON N 45 1.54 W 93 31.764FIX UKN LATLON N 43 16.805 W 91 32.242FIX UTHNK LATLON N 45 1.227 W 93 32.534FIX VAGEY LATLON N 44 49.447 W 93 18.363FIX VYKES LATLON N 45 2.2 W 93 18.85FIX WABBS LATLON N 44 54.164 W 93 16.121FIX WASHY LATLON N 44 56.949 W 93 21.069FIX WAYZA LATLON N 44 59.721 W 93 29.021FIX WENNR LATLON N 46 14.67 W 95 11.921FIX WHISK LATLON N 45 8.393 W 92 57.729FIX WIDEL LATLON N 44 54.855 W 93 17.718FIX WILDD LATLON N 44 25.678 W 90 36.071FIX WLSTN LATLON N 45 28.441 W 91 .921FIX WOLVS LATLON N 45 .246 W 92 34.382FIX WULAM LATLON N 44 44.849 W 92 53.201FIX ZASKY LATLON N 44 55.818 W 93 1.853FIX ZESTY LATLON N 44 58.19 W 93 25.458FIX ZIBBY LATLON N 44 6.933 W 93 13.951FIX ZMBNI LATLON N 44 50.446 W 92 9.302FIX ZMBRO LATLON N 44 20.5 W 92 26.91FIX ZOGAP LATLON N 45 5.283 W 93 52.55ENDFIXESRNWSRNW 17RNW 22RNW 30LRNW 04RNW 12LRNW 12RRNW 35RNW 30RENDRNWSSIDSSID COULT3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX TAXEE FIX COULT TRANSITION DLL FIX LMFRY FIX DLLSID DWN3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX MSP FIX INUNE FIX DWN AT OR ABOVE 10000 TRANSITION ABR FIX ABRSID KBREW3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX GEP FIX HRBEK FIX HOMUR FIX KBREW TRANSITION FAR FIX FARSID LEINY3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX TONCA FIX BOTNE FIX KUUGL AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX LEINYSID MEDOW1 RNW 17 FIX HUSHH AT OR ABOVE 1241SID ORSKY4 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX MSP FIX JURNY FIX RUMLE FIX PEDLN FIX ORSKY TRANSITION FOD FIX FOD TRANSITION OVR FIX ONTIJ AT OR ABOVE 12000 FIX GOOLD FIX SIMJI FIX EYHUX FIX PUMKN FIX OVRSID RST4 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX FGT FIX FOBUG AT OR ABOVE 4000 FIX DOKTR FIX CORDY FIX RST TRANSITION ALO FIX ALOSID SCHEP3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX MSP FIX HUGIR FIX MCONL FIX ARREX FIX SCHEP TRANSITION OBH FIX OTG AT OR ABOVE 16000 FIX OBH TRANSITION ONL FIX OTG FIX ONLSID SMERF3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX ZOGAP FIX PAGOZ AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX SMERFSID UKN3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX FGT FIX LOAFR FIX SHUZE FIX BROTA FIX UKN TRANSITION DBQ FIX DBQSID WLSTN3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX GEP FIX SNINE FIX DWIYT FIX WLSTN TRANSITION GRB FIX GRBSID ZMBRO3 RNW 17 RNW 22 RNW 30L RNW 04 RNW 12L RNW 12R RNW 35 RNW 30R FIX JEDET AT OR ABOVE 4000 FIX ZMBRO TRANSITION ODI FIX ODIENDSIDSSTARSSTAR DELZY1 FIX KASPR FIX ZIBBY FIX DELZY TRANSITION ALO FIX ALO FIX JAGOW TRANSITION MCW FIX MCW FIX JAGOWSTAR EAU8 FIX EAU FIX HERMI FIX TWINZ FIX WOLVS FIX LOOON FIX ZASKY TRANSITION BAE FIX BAE FIX BEERI FIX ROBBY FIX KRSPY FIX WILDD TRANSITION GRB FIX GRB FIX PAKKRSTAR GEP5 FIX GOLLF FIX OLLEE FIX SAUGR FIX GEP FIX VYKES TRANSITION AXN FIX AXN TRANSITION BRD FIX BRD TRANSITION FAR FIX FAR FIX WENNRSTAR KASPR4 FIX KASPR FIX ZIBBY FIX DELZY FIX PEPPR FIX AHMIT FIX FGT TRANSITION ALO FIX ALO FIX JAGOW TRANSITION MCW FIX MCW FIX JAGOWSTAR SAUGR1 FIX GOLLF FIX OLLEE FIX SAUGR TRANSITION AXN FIX AXN TRANSITION BRD FIX BRD TRANSITION FAR FIX FAR FIX WENNRSTAR SKETR3 FIX SKETR FIX SHONN FIX NORWD FIX JAEDN FIX MONKY TRANSITION RWFSTAR TWOLF2 FIX TWOLF FIX KGEEE FIX LYNKS FIX TRGET TRANSITION FOD FIX FOD FIX TICKTSTAR WILDD2 FIX WILDD FIX NICKL FIX ZMBNI FIX BITLR TRANSITION BAE FIX BAE FIX BEERI FIX ROBBY FIX KRSPYENDSTARSAPPROACHESAPPROACH ILS04 FIX KETAM AT OR ABOVE 4000 FIX VAGEY RNW 04 TRK 43 UNTIL 1500 HOLD AT FIX GEP LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 117 ALT 4000 LEGDIST 3 TRANSITION LYDIA FIX LYDIA HDG 340 INTERCEPT RADIAL 223 FROM FIX IAPL FIX KETAM AT OR ABOVE 4000APPROACH ILS12L FIX WASHY FIX AASUN RNW 12L TRK 119 UNTIL 1500 HDG 350 INTERCEPT RADIAL 42 FROM FIX FCM FIX WHISK 4000 TRANSITION CCJAY FIX CCJAY AT OR ABOVE 7000 FIX UBTYA AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX ALGIN AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX HAMML AT OR ABOVE 4000APPROACH ILS12R FIX KINNS FIX WABBS RNW 12R TRK 119 UNTIL 1500 HOLD AT FIX FGT RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 358 ALT 5000 LEGDIST 3 TRANSITION PAETN FIX PAETN AT OR ABOVE 7000 FIX UTHNK AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX WAYZA AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX ZESTY AT OR ABOVE 4000APPROACH ILS30L FIX NARCO FIX EAGAN RNW 30L TRK 299 UNTIL 1300 HDG 295 INTERCEPT RADIAL 180 FROM FIX GEP HOLD AT FIX GEP LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 117 ALT 4000 LEGDIST 3 TRANSITION HASTI FIX HASTI AT OR ABOVE 7000 FIX PINKE AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX PIGZI AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX AABEZ AT OR ABOVE 4000APPROACH ILS30R FIX JACKO RNW 30R TRK 299 UNTIL 1300 HDG 40 INTERCEPT RADIAL 85 FROM FIX GEP HOLD AT FIX WHISK RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 265 ALT 4000 LEGDIST 3 TRANSITION GROVZ FIX GROVZ AT OR ABOVE 7000 FIX WULAM AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX BONNA AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX SAMMZ AT OR ABOVE 4000APPROACH ILS35 FIX LORAH RNW 35 TRK 348 UNTIL 1600 HDG 202 INTERCEPT RADIAL 182 FROM FIX GEP HOLD AT FIX LYDIA RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 2 ALT 5000 LEGDIST 3 TRANSITION JAMEZ FIX JAMEZ AT OR ABOVE 7000 FIX OBERR AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX SSTAR AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX ROZEE AT OR ABOVE 4000APPROACH RNV04 FIX KETAM AT OR ABOVE 4000 FIX IGEPY AT OR ABOVE 2300 RNW 04 FIX EPEWU FIX GEP AT OR ABOVE 4000 TRANSITION LYDIA FIX LYDIAAPPROACH RNV12L FIX UBTYA AT OR ABOVE 4000 FIX WASHY AT OR ABOVE 3000 RNW 12L TRK 119 UNTIL 1039 FIX JACKO FIX WHISK AT OR ABOVE 4000 TRANSITION FUDGE FIX FUDGEAPPROACH RNV12R FIX UTHNK AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX KINNS AT OR ABOVE 3000 RNW 12R TRK 119 UNTIL 1119 FIX PEYOG FIX FGT AT OR ABOVE 5000 TRANSITION FUDGE FIX FUDGEAPPROACH RNV22 FIX FATES AT OR ABOVE 4000 FIX JALUN AT OR ABOVE 2600 RNW 22 TRK 223 UNTIL 1190 FIX JOGTO FIX FGT AT OR ABOVE 4000 TRANSITION WHISK FIX WHISKAPPROACH RNV30L FIX PINKE AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX NARCO AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX EAGAN 1540 RNW 30L TRK 300 UNTIL 1023 FIX WIDEL FIX FCM AT OR ABOVE 4000 TRANSITION PRESS FIX PRESSAPPROACH RNV30R FIX WULAM AT OR ABOVE 4000 FIX JACKO AT OR ABOVE 3000 RNW 30R TRK 299 UNTIL 1073 FIX FASRO FIX GEP AT OR ABOVE 5000 TRANSITION PRESS FIX PRESSENDAPPROACHES-------------------------To insure it is not a model or operating system issue try getting the list (a few countries are in it) from planepath.com by clicking on Terminal Procedures, PMDG, and following the instructions in the download.There also should be when you installed the PMDGs an initial original AIRAC file.If you have FS9 under a Program Files folder tree (PMDG is under that when you get to FS9) then the AIRAC installers must be run as an admin by right clicking on it if it is an .exe.
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Got your link working now. unfortunately it did not any good.After running the repair for FS9 even the basics got screwed up. Now my FS9 don't recognise the PMDG 737 NG anymore only the 747.Next to that all my liveries are gone (which were working fine)As of now I have no other option left then to un-instal all FS9 related files, clean up my sys and perform a clean install once again.Therefor, sadly, I consider this subject closed.However I want to thank you for your repy's and help efforts since you were the only one who was willing to help me.

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