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Unusual autothrottle behavior

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Flown the Tutorial flight twice now and I am loving the NGX, it's a work of art! I had a quick look through the forums and searched but could not see anyone else with this behavior. The first time I did tutorial I did it with no weather and the aircraft behaved pretty much as expected. Second time I wanted real world weather as I prefer to fly with this on, I use REX for the weather. The NGX performed perfectly up until the final part of the descent, at about 10000 it commanded full thrust into an over speed so i disconnected engaged speed brakes and retard thrust manually until was below 250, turned on autothrust again and the plane once again went to full thrust I let it climb up to just below over speed again (300 and something knots) then disengaged the autothrust and used my throttles to manually control speed to touch down. Some things I noticed, the speed tape was jumping around a lot about 20 40 knot jumps up and down maybe this was confusing the AT logic? There was a very strong crosswind i think 30 40 knots (at this point can i say how awesome the HUD is flew the plane perfectly using the steerage guidance thingy and landed on the center line) which went to a 14 knot headwind about 20 seconds before touch down ^^ Will fly the Tutorial again tonight with RW weather and see if it repeats or if it was just a issue with the weather that night, was very windy and gusty in Europe. Paul M.

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Do you use FSUIPC to control the wind gusts and direction change? If the weather program updates and changes the wind direction then the AT will have a very hard time keeping control.For example if you had a 35kt head wind and suddenly a 35kt tailwind, you have a 70 kt difference so your AT will try to compensate. Dan.

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No i don't use FSUIPC. but never had this problem with the MD-11 or 747X with full throttle been applied into a over speed condition in descent. Paul M

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What vertical mode were you in? Was it VNAV? If so what was the speed constraint? If not VNAV what was the MCP speed set to? Was N1 AT active?

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Was in Vnav as per the tutorial no speed was in the MCP window it was blank, the FMC was asking for 250 or below I believe, not sure about N1 AT, I basically was following the tutorial... is it possible to click the hidden click point on the MCP that will select TOGA? Though once you disengage the AT it shouldn't command full thrust again once you reselect?Paul M

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Yes, I did this once as well.The click spot for TOGA is quite large, just to the left of the Captains FD switch I think.

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I wonder if that is what i did, maybe when i was entering the course for the ILS on the MCP i accidently clicked the TOGA hidden thing, that part of the tutorial is around that phase of flight descending through 10 thousand. Paul M.

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Yeah could well be, do you rotate the mouse wheel or click the course knob for interaction?I usually use the mouse wheel to avoid inadvertent clicking when using TrackIR. Dan.

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