July 17, 200421 yr Hello Gang!If I create an IFR flight plan, whether with the FS2004 flight planner or with an external flight planner such as FSBuild, whenever I load the flight plan and locate my aircraft at the appropriate gate in my departure airport, I only get the ability to get ATIS and contact Ground - I do not get a Clearance choice. If the weather at the departure airport is IFR and I contact Ground to get ground clearance to the active, I get told that the airport is currently IFR and that the request is denied. In the mean time, all the other AI aircraft that are roaming around, do get clearance and ground handling.Is this a bug anyone else has noticed? Is there a way around it? Thanks in advance!Sincerely,Dennis D. Mullert Sincerely, Dennis D. Müllert System Specs: MoBo: MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi ATX AM5. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D. Memory: 128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 CL-40. GPU: 24GB Asus TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 4090. Monitor: LG UltraGear+ 45" curved OLED. Power Supply: Corsair 1500 Watt 80+ Platinum ATX. HD: 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD. Windows 11 Pro. Flight Sim Hardware: Joystick: Thrustmaster T16000M. Rudder Pedals: Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Pedals. Yoke: Honeycomb Alpha. Throttles: Honeycomb Bravo. Controller: XBox Controller
July 17, 200421 yr Dennis, Seems like a bug as it happens to me too but not every time. Each time I managed to do something with no real logical order, like checking the flightplan and starting again and it then worked. Would be good to hear from someone who has a solution.
July 17, 200421 yr I have this problem if I fail to taxi to the assigned gate or space in the previous flight and then save the situation. When I reload the situation with a new flight plan, it won't let me get clearance. At this point, I find it helpful to choose the show taxi lines. I then go into slew mode, follow the taxi lines, and situate the plane at the assigned gate or space from the previous flight. If I do it right, the old adventure terminates, and I am able to get clearance for the new adventure. You also might want to save the situation once you are able to terminate the old adventure. Sometimes, I find it easier just to create a new situation from an older situation that does not have remnants of an old adventure still running.
July 17, 200421 yr Thanks, I'll look into that. I do seem to remember though that this happened when creating a new flight but my memory might be at fault here.
July 17, 200421 yr If you find yourself in the situaton where the previous planflight has not cleared for whatever reason ,do this: go to the map view and change your heading by, say, one degree, it will reset the flight sim. If you then load the flight plan you should be ready to go.chm
July 18, 200421 yr Hi, at the risk of stating the obvious.....make sure you click the IFR button on the flight planner page, otherwise it will default to VFR, and you won't get IFR clearance! If the weather is bad, you won't get ANY clearance probably!!Sorry.....that's the only time I've ever had that 'no clearance' experience....Even if you are downloading the plan into a different aircrafts' FMC, such as the PSS or PMDG, it may be important that the original plan was IFR, although ATC will treat it as VFR, but never seem to deny clearance in my experience, with the PSS Airbus/PMDG 737NG FMC.
July 18, 200421 yr Thanks, that might not be immediately obvious to some but the flight plan that was loaded when this happened to me was correctly configured for IFR and had been previously used as a working IFR plan. The problem is with getting ATC to immediately recognise it as such.
July 18, 200421 yr Same as Charlie here!The flight plan was carefully selected as an IFR flight plan. For some reason, the Clearance choice does not appear in the ATC window - just ATIS and Ground.Thanks!Dennis Sincerely, Dennis D. Müllert System Specs: MoBo: MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi ATX AM5. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D. Memory: 128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 CL-40. GPU: 24GB Asus TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 4090. Monitor: LG UltraGear+ 45" curved OLED. Power Supply: Corsair 1500 Watt 80+ Platinum ATX. HD: 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD. Windows 11 Pro. Flight Sim Hardware: Joystick: Thrustmaster T16000M. Rudder Pedals: Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Pedals. Yoke: Honeycomb Alpha. Throttles: Honeycomb Bravo. Controller: XBox Controller
July 18, 200421 yr I just remembered that the last time it happened I had already set up a bad weather scenario via the themes to quickly test a plane in bad weather rather than use AS2004 which I would normally do. Just wondering if that's what confuses ATC. I don't remember it happening with decent weather settings or when using AS2004. Or maybe ATC just needs more time to establish its correct working. I'll try waiting longer next time before contacting ATC and see what happens.
July 18, 200421 yr I tried again with a loaded flight plan (before clicking Fly Now) and the same thing happened. I then went to Flights, Flight Planner and cleared the flight plan, loaded the same plan back in, clicked on OK and ATC immediately recognised the flight plan as IFR. So, is one supposed to click the Fly Now button and start the sim before loading a flight plan to ensure the plan is recognised by ATC?
July 18, 200421 yr It just seems to happen to me randomly. The only solution I've found, other than restarting, is to take off and then load the IFR flight plan so that I can at least follow the flight plan from where I am to where I want to go.
July 18, 200421 yr Have any of you tried what fs3tofs9 suggested in the third post of this thread? Dennis, have you? If not then listen up:EACH AND EVERY TIME that this has happened to me it was because I did not taxi to the correct parking spot at the conclusion of the previous flight! Follow fs3's directions to correct the problem. It works every time for me. R-
July 18, 200421 yr When it happened to you, had you saved the previous flight? Or does this happen regardless of that?
July 18, 200421 yr Thanks for your reply. I wasn't saving previous flights. I have now tried using AS2004 before starting FS9 and the plan was recognised by ATC immediately. Now I wonder if this all could have something to do with FSUIPC? I'm still using an older version that seemed stable, however I want to update it soon, as the latest version is reported to work well with AS2004. It will be interesting to see if this problem changes after I do that.
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