July 16, 200421 yr Howdy guys-Maybe this isn't a simple question, but I've been wondering for a while now how much initial capital would be required to start a payware project. I know nothing about aircraft design or programming gauges. I don't really care if it turns a profit, but rather to simply add to the flight sim community. I don't want to attempt an airliner right away, maybe a good GA aircraft first.Thanks everyone, let me know what you think.Mike
July 16, 200421 yr Depending on whether you do it as your main source of income or just want to get the money from tools and research back (and of course the size of your team) the cost can varry from a few thousand to many tens of thousands of Euros.
July 16, 200421 yr An exceedingly simple approach to a complicated issue, Mike. The answer is "it depends." Who's to do the work? What kind af acft...what sort of instrumentation...what sort of modeling and animation, etc. If you have the skills to create the model, write the gauge code with a freeware C compiler, design your own FDE, and integrate it all yourself...then cost would be minimal except in terms of your time. After that the cost and complexity go up, depending on the choices you make. And the FS market is pretty fickle, too. The customer base is widely varied, from the clueless nuggets that'd buy any add-on that was put in front of them, no matter if it flies like a grand piano being dropped from a 5th story window, to the relentless perfectionists that'd dog you until the death of your grandchildren because the color of the rudder pedals in the VC was 2 shades too dark.But, in general, it's a great place to try...the FS market is one place I know where you as a marketer can screw everything up by delivering a half-completed buggy product hopelessly late and in the process treat your customers like they owe YOU something...and many will buy it anyway and keep coming back to lap up more.Why not Minot? Freezin's the reason.CheersBob Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 16, 200421 yr My tips--The greatest investment is in resources. To release something this community would be willing to pay for, you have to be a master of CAD, C++ (gauge) programming, physics/flight dynamics, and documentation. Very few have ALL those skills. That means partners, and with partners, you get a splitting of the profits.Almost every payware player in the market today started as a freeware designer. If you release payware without any stab at freeware, that would likely blow some of the credibility you'd need. The more credibility, the less investment in advertising. I release freeware for the sheer pleasure of it. If you simply want to add to the flight sim community, thanks to sites like Avsim, no money's required. I've just taken my first steps in A/C design in the past year, and I've done that by collaborating with other designers--it's a great way to learn. But I also have some programming experience, so I back up my design interest by supporting a couple of dissimilar utilities I've released over the past couple of years. One of those utilities, Landclass Assistant, brought offers from a couple of good people to help publish and distribute it as payware, but I wasn't interested--I'm not "in it" for that. But it does prove my point that a sincere effort at freeware gets you on the radar..-John
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