I'm new to trying to fly "right". The situation is: 10 miles out from airport. TAS = 100 knots GS= 127. Altitude 6,100 (ATC). Wind 171/9. How do I land a 172SP without crashing due to overspeed. Mountains galore.Thanks,captainfender

fs atc has issues when in mountain areas...skip the ATC or in-flight close the IFR flight plan when 30 out, descend visual and fly the pattern as per atc tower.

Do you know how to do a slip? If you're in a light plane, slow to below flap deployment speed, drop flaps, dip your wings into the wind and put opposite rudder while pitching for a good speed well above stalling but under the max flap speed. If you're in a jet, I don't know if this practice is safe or acceptible.----------------------------------------------------------------John S. MorganReal World: KGEG, UND Aerospace Spokane Satillite, Private 130+ hrs.Virtual: MSFS 2004"There is a feeling about an airport that no other piece of ground can have. No matter what the name of the country on whose land it lies, an airport is a place you can see and touch that leads to a reality that can only be thought and felt." - The Bridge Across Forever: A Love Story by Richard Bach

Thanks, I will do this.Captainfender

Thanks. Now i have something to work on.Captainfender

You're welcome and MSFS might actually explain it in it's help in terms a little bit better than I did.----------------------------------------------------------------John S. MorganReal World: KGEG, UND Aerospace Spokane Satillite, Private 130+ hrs.Virtual: MSFS 2004"There is a feeling about an airport that no other piece of ground can have. No matter what the name of the country on whose land it lies, an airport is a place you can see and touch that leads to a reality that can only be thought and felt." - The Bridge Across Forever: A Love Story by Richard Bach

Go real Weather... 95% of the time you will get victored to Runway 8. When you get vectored to 27 come down the channel past downtown Juneau. You will have a mild left turn to line up and it's easier to do. You can also set full flaps ... That ought to slow you down.Joe W.

Hi John, you tell me off for smoking by the gas pumps and now I read you might sidesip a 747 8000 ft down into Juneau, although you're not sure if it's acceptable! I like your style, but I must remember never to go too near Spokane in case you're practising these speculative manoeuvres in some heavy iron!!:+

Hi there. I've just tried a landing at Juneau- in the dark! I came down the channel to 27 -quite easy but still came down in the water!! so I tried again in daylight(in John Murchisons fantastic Metroliner) and landed ok. The point of this is that as I taxied off ATC gave clearance to one of Tom Gibson's Boeing 377s to come in 'down the hill'as it were so I pressed 'ctrl' and'w' until I got it and followed her down As it turned out it couldn't land either, the lowest was 75 ft, then it was wheels up and round again for the AI bird. If the computer can't land it's own planes there ,what chance have the rest of us got?!!

Well, ignorance is bliss. :-lol Nah, I wouldn't do anything that I wasn't sure of. Hehe. I wasn't aware of the aircraft he was flying so I made sure he knew that I wasn't aware if you should do it in the jet. That and I doubt the passangers would like their drinks sliding off their trays. ;)----------------------------------------------------------------John S. MorganReal World: KGEG, UND Aerospace Spokane Satillite, Private 130+ hrs.Virtual: MSFS 2004"There is a feeling about an airport that no other piece of ground can have. No matter what the name of the country on whose land it lies, an airport is a place you can see and touch that leads to a reality that can only be thought and felt." - The Bridge Across Forever: A Love Story by Richard Bach

My pics are round the wrong way- that's down to me!

Thanks everyone for the info. I was flying a 172sp. I finally landed using rwy 8. I went to VFR and the only ATC options I had were to tune ATIS and airport direction. I never heard from ATC until I landed and they told me to exit the runway. Thanks,captainfender