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There are several arcade-style USB joysticks available for XBox/PS2/etc. - will these work with FSX Steam and Win10? Are buttons mappable too?

I have limited hand dexterity and can no longer use my Logitech joystick so I am searching for alternatives. I use a joystick on my powerchair by wrapping my hand around the controller and "steering" with the gap between my thumb and index finger. I think the arcade-style may work for me physically.

Other alternatives?

Thanks!

I just connected an XBox Elite controller to my PC and looked at the axes/buttons in a DirectX viewer, and it appears as a regular HID device with variable-position axes on X-Y (left thumbstick) and XRot-YRot (right thumbstick) axes, and a hat switch.  The buttons are also standard DirectX buttons 1-4.  The triggers are a bit odd...they both (left and right) alter the variable position Z axis, with the left trigger moving the axis one direction from center, the the right in the other direction, and they cancel each other out.

So it should be possible to use an XBox controller as a joystick, perhaps with the right thumbstick XRot (left-right) axis as rudder.  Throttle could be managed with the buttons mapped to the throttle increase/decrease controls.

Regards

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Well, "works with Steam" doesn't tell the whole story.  If the joystick only produces discrete position inputs (e.g. left, right, up, down etc) then it may "work" with a Steam arcade game such as a PC version of something like PacMan, but not with anything that requires a variable analog input.

Some quick Google-Fu led me to one review of that Mayflash F300 that suggests to me that it produces discrete inputs (and inconsistently based on stick throw at that).

Regards

 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

  • 4 weeks later...

For anyone interested my vote goes to the PDP Wired Controller, Xbox and Win 10 which I use on a PC - its the best controller I have for flying simulators and also the cheapest. 

https://www.amazon.com/PDP-Wired-Controller-Xbox-Verdant-Green/dp/B073X515PL?th=1

with two hands you have throttle, elevator and ailerons, and two paddles on the back for rudder control you can access with your spare fingers at the back. It gives full control and this full control makes it closest to the real thing imo. The only downside is that I have the throttle set up on the right stick and the self centering spring means you have to hold it down to idle - but you get used to it, and one advantage is in the centre it will maintain a good thrust level for cruising.

After years of trying pedals for sims I have given up on them. Found the pedals in a real aircraft not that comfortable to use either. The paddles as rudders works well for me.

The self centering springs on this controller (similar to radio control controllers) work much better than on joysticks. I have to modify my other joysticks with a plastic zip tie to make them useable, since every joystick I have bought had springs which were far to strong and made using the joystick sticky and hard to use. There are youtube videos showing how to modify a joystick, that is reduce the spring force with a plastic tie (its a 50 cent investment), by clamping the centre spring under the base. It works well. I had to do this when I started flying helis on fsx, to make the stick smoother, but now I use the PDP controller.

 

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