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stevepeck1    0

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My GTN650 GPS (downloaded and updated today) will work as a pop-up (on the downloaded and updated vFlyteAir Piper Arrow III under Win7) but will not show on the panel. The panel GPS buttons/knobs WORK and affect the pop-up panel but that's all. I've read virtually everything about the problem but cannot solve it.

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RXP    2,338

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Hi,

First, you might want to review the pinned topic about this very subject:

 

You might want to also review the following tutorial, and the RXP User's Manual. This will help you understanding the ini file and how this relates to displaying anything in the 3D cockpit, therefore, how to identify why it is not displaying in the 3D cockpit:

 

Edited by RXP

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4 hours ago, RXP said:

Hi,

First, you might want to review the pinned topic about this very subject:

(and)

You might want to also review the following tutorial, and the RXP User's Manual. This will help you understanding the ini file and how this relates to displaying anything in the 3D cockpit, therefore, how to identify why it is not displaying in the 3D cockpit:

 

22 hours ago, stevepeck1 said:

My GTN650 GPS (downloaded and updated today) will work as a pop-up (on the downloaded and updated vFlyteAir Piper Arrow III under Win7) but will not show on the panel. The panel GPS buttons/knobs WORK and affect the pop-up panel but that's all. I've read virtually everything about the problem but cannot solve it.

So RXP you want me to read the same pinned post I read where several people say they couldn't get it to work?

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I love the sarcasm, but the pinned topic conclusion is:

Quote

EDIT: You beauty - that sorted it. Thanks very much!!

Now, leaving the sarcasm someplace else and back to providing assistance, the same pinned topic is always detailing and explaining what is governing rendering in the 3D cockpit (this is my message near the top with nice colors and bold text highlighting the key parts).

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23 hours ago, stevepeck1 said:

My GTN650 GPS (downloaded and updated today) will work as a pop-up (on the downloaded and updated vFlyteAir Piper Arrow III under Win7) but will not show on the panel. The panel GPS buttons/knobs WORK and affect the pop-up panel but that's all. I've read virtually everything about the problem but cannot solve it.

The only .ini I see is here: C:\Users\[me]\X-Plane 11\Aircraft\vFlyteAir_PiperArrowIII_v5\RealityXP.GTN.ini

I followed the instructions, found the coordinates, opened and edited as below. Not yet sorted for me.

[GTN]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GTN_650_1

[GTN_650_1]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, Garmin_650_screen
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true 
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 0
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1
AutoCdiSrc = true 
LinkCrs = true 
LinkObs = true 
AutoGpsSource = 2
LinkVor = true 
UseSimGpsCmds = true 

[GTN_650_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1917,1016,1282,541
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,350,830,350
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = true
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_650_1.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

[GNS_650_1.Garmin_Screen]
visible = true
nobezel = true
frame.type = PANEL3D
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1535,862,430,240
 

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Posted (edited)

If I may jump on this bandwagon, as it's not displaying in my cockpit either (but pops out as a window fine). I want it in my cessna. Here's the RealityXP.GTN ini found in the airplane folder...


 

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[GTN]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GTN_750_2

[GTN_725_1]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = false
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 1
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1

[GTN_725_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 423,1170,830,790
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,790,830,790
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_725_1.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

[GTN_750_2]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = false
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 1
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1

[GTN_750_2.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true 
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1617,1218,830,790
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true 
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,790,830,790
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = true 
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_750_2.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

[GTN_725_2]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 1
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1

[GTN_725_2.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,830,790
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,790,830,790
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_725_2.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

[GTN_750_1]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 1
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1

[GTN_750_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 188,1333,830,790
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,790,830,790
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_750_1.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

 

 

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@psybermonkey Hi, please take the time to review the posts linked above, and the bold/highlighted text which is pin-pointing why it can't display in your case (hint: visible). You'll not only solve the problem, you'll be able to self-solve any similar problem in the future.

NB: please don't cross post.

Edited by RXP

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12 hours ago, stevepeck1 said:

[GNS_650_1.Garmin_Screen]
visible = true
nobezel = true
frame.type = PANEL3D

You might want to change this one to PANELS instead. Otherwise, the rest seems fine.

If this doesn't work, this might just be the coordinates in frame.rect = 1535,862,430,240 which are off.

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2 hours ago, RXP said:

@psybermonkey Hi, please take the time to review the posts linked above, and the bold/highlighted text which is pin-pointing why it can't display in your case (hint: visible). You'll not only solve the problem, you'll be able to self-solve any similar problem in the future.

NB: please don't cross post.

Hi,

Apologies for the cross post! But could you please be more specific with what I need to change exactly? I looked at the posts and get that it has something to do with altering "visible" but there are so many different ones and mine doesn't look exactly the same (e.g. I don't have a [GTN_750_1.PANEL3D])

Thanks!

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@psybermonkey please read RXP GTN User's Manual p15.

It is a shorter version of the discussion linked above, but maybe reading it twice with a different wording might 'sparkle' how does it all fit and bind together.

I'm pasting the content here for consistency and for sparing readers from having to click themselves. Put it side-by-side with the User's manual p15.

NB: please let me know if you're color blinded because color is used to highlight the links in the following example. Bold is used to emphasis the actual settings directly affecting visibility.

 

[GTN]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GTN_750_1, GTN_750_2

 

[GTN_750_1]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANEL3D

[GTN_750_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false

[GTN_750_1.PANEL3D]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1218,2048,830,1024

 

[GTN_750_2]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS

[GTN_750_2.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false

[GTN_750_2.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0

 

This tells:

  1. you're running the 2 devices in this panel
  2. Unit#1 renders to a non-visible window, and to a visible 3D surface within a rectangle coordinates which are set.
  3. Unit#2 renders to a non-visible window, to a non-visible 3D surface within an empty rectangle.

 

Edited by RXP

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4 hours ago, RXP said:

You might want to change this one to PANELS instead. Otherwise, the rest seems fine.

If this doesn't work, this might just be the coordinates in frame.rect = 1535,862,430,240 which are off.

I appreciate your replies. Still trying to get this to work. This is the panel preview which shows that the datapoints are right (it IS seeing the 650).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4v2h2kapcfz179/Panel_Preview.png?dl=0

This is the updated .INI where I'm trying everything (maybe too much) but still get a black screen on the 650 on the panel.

[GTN]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GTN_650_1

[GTN_650_1]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS, PANEL
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 0
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1
UseSimGpsCmds = true

[GTN_650_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1922,1024,1278,539
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,350,830,350
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_650_1.PANEL3D]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANEL3D
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1535,862,429,239

[GTN_650_1.PANEL2D]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANEL3D
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1535,862,429,239

[GTN_650_1.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANEL3D
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1535,862,429,239
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true
 

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5 hours ago, RXP said:
18 hours ago, stevepeck1 said:

[GNS_650_1.Garmin_Screen]
visible = true
nobezel = true
frame.type = PANEL3D

You might want to change this one to PANELS instead. Otherwise, the rest seems fine.

If this doesn't work, this might just be the coordinates in frame.rect = 1535,862,430,240 which are off.

@stevepeck1 please read carefully what I'm writing. Look at what I'm suggesting to change (hint: it is bold text).

As for the frame.rect, it appears ok.

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Curiously, I had messed with settings until it worked... But only if I manually set the X-Plane panel view every flight to 3D. Doesn't work in the 2D panel. Is there a way to have X-plane default to a 3D panel view so this is not an issue?

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Like I've tried to explain above: changing the setting above tells the GTN onto which 'X-Plane display mode' the rendering section is applying.

changing your initial =PANEL3D to =PANELS tells it to render in any of these modes and it is most likely the solution to the problem.

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  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

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