Multi 4-joystick adapter instance [resolved]

[foxbau 4]

Hi from Munich.

I am using an multi 4-joystick Adapter for my FMC Buttons. https://github.com/FreeJoy-Team/FreeJoy  working at P3D V4 very well for years.

Unfortunately new Linda ( for FSUIPC6 P3D V5) discovers 4 controlles with THE SAME ID /  instance

LINDA 3.2.5

 

0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

OLD LINDA 3.1.1 ( running)

 

0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

0483572B1 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

0483572B2 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

0483572B3 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

WIN 10 (2004)Device Manager:

 

Das Gerät HID\VID_0483&PID_572B&Col03\8&2154e666&0&0002 wurde konfiguriert.

Das Gerät HID\VID_0483&PID_572B&Col04\8&2154e666&0&0003 wurde konfiguriert.

Das Gerät HID\VID_0483&PID_572B&Col01\8&2154e666&0&0000 wurde konfiguriert.

Das Gerät HID\VID_0483&PID_572B&Col02\8&2154e666&0&0001 wurde konfiguriert.

Treibername: input.inf

Klassen-GUID: {745a17a0-74d3-11d0-b6fe-00a0c90f57da}

Treiberdatum: 06/21/2006

Treiberversion: 10.0.19041.1

Treiberanbieter: Microsoft

Treiberabschnitt: HID_Raw_Inst.NT

Treiberrang: 0xFF1003

Passende Geräte-ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_GAME

Treiber mit niedrigerem Rang: input.inf:HID_DEVICE:00FF1005

Gerät wurde aktualisiert: false

Übergeordnetes Gerät: USB\VID_0483&PID_572B\00000000001D

Edited June 29, 2020 by ScotFlieger

[ScotFlieger 280]

Does the FreeJoy provide a unique serial number for each device? If not you will need to edit the /linda-cfg/aircrafts/F35/config-hid.lua and change the device ID to provide different letter as better. You can also do this by copying the old /linda-cfg/system/config-hid.lua to your new location.

[foxbau 4]

I am not so family with HID\VID device ID and HID. I fear They have the same serial.

But the device Manager, FSUIPC and old Linda 3.1.1 counts something up 01 / 02 / 03 / 04.🙂   Linda 3.2.5 not.☹️

(Avira: Linda Directory switched off) . 
---> F35 is the Joystick Board Name. I think i have to modyfy : "D:\_FS TOOLS\FSUIPC6\LINDA-CFG\aircrafts\FSX Default\config-hid.lua"
      I tried to change he the Serial and Name but after Start Linda again the old values appeared.

----> I found the file "D:\_FS TOOLS\FSUIPC6\LINDA-CFG\system\config-hid.lua"
        Inside beautyful different descriptions for the different Joysticks.🤑
       But again starting Linda (without P3D and FSUIPC) again the OLD  Controllers with no difference. sie Pikture 😞😡

----> copying old

J[5]={}
J[5][1]="0483572B2"
J[5][2]="F35 C"
J[5][3]="10"
J[5][4]="1"
J[5][5]="32"
J[5][6]="0"
J[5][7]="0"
J[5][8]="0000000000"

    JSTK["0483572B2"]={}
  JSTKrp["0483572B2"]={}
  JSTKrl["0483572B2"]={}

   JSTK2["0483572B2"]={}
 JSTK2rp["0483572B2"]={}
 JSTK2rl["0483572B2"]={}

   JSTK3["0483572B2"]={}
 JSTK3rp["0483572B2"]={}
 JSTK3rl["0483572B2"]={}

J[6]={}
J[6][1]="0483572B3"
J[6][2]="F35 D"
J[6][3]="10"
J[6][4]="1"
J[6][5]="32"
J[6][6]="0"
J[6][7]="0"
J[6][8]="0000000000"

    JSTK["0483572B3"]={}
  JSTKrp["0483572B3"]={}
  JSTKrl["0483572B3"]={}

   JSTK2["0483572B3"]={}
 JSTK2rp["0483572B3"]={}
 JSTK2rl["0483572B3"]={}

   JSTK3["0483572B3"]={}
 JSTK3rp["0483572B3"]={}
 JSTK3rl["0483572B3"]={}

 

 

[ScotFlieger 280]

Your virtual devices are all registering the serial number 000000000. This could be corrupting the way LINDA allocates its VID/VID/UID reference.

Try the following to restore you old configuration:

Copy the old /linda-cfg/system/config-hid.lua to new location.

For the aircraft you are trying to setup, copy the old /linda-cfg/aircrafts/{your aircraft}/config-hid.lua.

If that fails, delete both files in the new installation and restart LINDA with all your devices plugged in. LINDA will recreate the files but you will need to reassign the functions to the newly created configuration.

Edited June 27, 2020 by ScotFlieger

[foxbau 4]

Thanks for answer.  Due to the problems I dont try to make another Aircraft confic as FSX Standard. This is the first Step.

A) I deletet "D:\_FS TOOLS\FSUIPC6\LINDA-CFG\aircrafts\FSX Default\config-hid.lua" and bak dir.

             And    "D:\_FS TOOLS\FSUIPC6\LINDA-CFG\system\config-hid.lua" and bak dir.
             Renaming the my controllers. and save.

B) I copied old running Hid.lua. Always starting Linda this are ignored and overwritten with the bug Version.
          Renaming the my controllers has bugs

C)   Even the normal Hotas Wathogs have [NoSerNum] (But different ID so it doesnt matter.)
044F04040 ● Throttle - HOTAS Warthog → Axes: 12  Buttons: 32  Hats: 1 [NoSerNum]
0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]
044F04020 ● Joystick - HOTAS Warthog → Axes: 6  Buttons: 19  Hats: 1 [NoSerNum]

D) In my feeling the Problem started with Linda (FSUIPC6).
At the first Versions I changed SetupLinda / Settings start minimized and start with GUI.
After closing and restart Linda this changes were not stored!
With the last Version this Bug was solved.
Why my Linda does not pick up the \LINDA-CFG\system\config-hid.lua values and show it at the Linda GUI??
Its funny but some changes are still changed saved in the \LINDA-CFG\system\config-hid.lua
An remember it is a new fresh installed WIN 10 (2004)
 

Is there a way to set you pictures.  without URL ?
Inside system\config-hid.lua the multi Joysticks have the difference   "B2 FMC3" and  "B3  FMC4"

J[5]={}
J[5][1]="0483572B2"
J[5][2]="FMC3"
J[5][3]="10"
J[5][8]="0000000000"

J[6]={}

J[6][1]="0483572B3"
J[6][2]="FMC4"

At Linda GUI this difference is not shown:

044F04040 ● Throttle - HOTAS Warthog → Axes: 12  Buttons: 32  Hats: 1 [NoSerNum]
0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]
044F04020 ● Joystick - HOTAS Warthog → Axes: 6  Buttons: 19  Hats: 1 [NoSerNum]
0483572B0 ● F-35 A → Axes: 0  Buttons: 32  Hats: 0 [0000000000]

 

 

 

Edited June 27, 2020 by foxbau

[ScotFlieger 280]

Hi

Please read and follow the Fault Diagnosis Procedure (under LINDA Support) and email me the logs and any screenshots. Also send the config-hid.lua files for /system and /aircraft. Let me see you backup and new versions.

I may have to modify the code to ignore devices with 000000000 serial numbers. This is a unique problem to you. 

[foxbau 4]

Dear Andrew Gransden

Many Thanks, for your excellent support,

I got the last day 4 different new modified versions for me. again, and again my logfiles were analyses by the support

Now the first fast test was positive. I made 4-joysticks with different each 1 function.

And I have the experience with Linda when 1 function is running 1000 are running too.

Now Monday I installed P3D V5 and checked P3D V4 PMDG NGX.

Its working well, like Linda did it the last 5 years.

My rule drivers:  Don’t Install proprietary manufacture drivers. Use FSUIPC for Axis and Linda for Buttons.

Greeting from Munich

and enjoy some Paypal Pints on mee .

George