March 18, 20215 yr Firstly, thanks for one of the best flightsim addons ever! It would be awesome if LNM could export flightplans for the new Aerosoft CRJ for MFS. The file extension is ".flp" and below is the flightplan format details that come with the documentation. Plus Simbrief can now also do the export. CRJ Flightplan Format The CRJ uses a standard Windows Ini‐File to store flightplans in. It contains three sections: “CoRte”, “PerfData” and “VNAVData”. Flightplans are stored in the user’s “Documents” folder under “Aerosoft\Digital Aviation CRJ\Flightplans”. The default filename extension is “.flp” CoRte Section ArptDep Departure Airport (4‐Letter ICAO Code; “EDDP”) RwyDep Departure Runway Identifer (“EDDP26L”) ArptArr Arrival Airport (4‐Letter ICAO Code; “LOWS”) RwyArr Arrival Runway Identifier (“LOWS15”) ArptAltn Alternate Airport (4‐Letter ICAO Code; “EDDM”) SID Departure Route Identifer (“GOLA1S”) SIDEnrTrans Departure Route to Enroute Transition (optional) STAR Arrival Route Identifier (“BADI1R”) EnrSTARTrans Enroute to Arrival Route Identifier (optional) STARApprTrans Arrival Route to Approach Transition Transition Identifier (optional) Appr_Trans Approach Transition Identifier (“SBG”) RwyArr_Final Approach Identifier (“I15”) CoRoute Company Route Identifier (optional) FltNo Flight Number (“EWG123”) This is followed by the legs of the route. These can be either airways or directs. They are numbered sequentially starting with 1 Airway1=T202 Airway for first leg Airway1From=GOLAT First waypoint on the airway Airway1To=ALOSO Last waypoint on the airway Airway2=T703 Airway for second leg Airway2From=ALOSO First waypoint on the airway Airway2To=ABERU Last waypoint on the airway DctWpt3=DOSEL The third leg leads directly to DOSEL DctWpt3Coordinates=48.438610,12.480830 Coordinates of DOSEL Airway4=UL605 Airway for fourth leg Airway4From=DOSEL First waypoint on the airway Airway4To=BIBAG Last waypoint on the runway AltnWpt1=HAREM First waypoint of the alternate flightplan AltnWpt1Coordinates=48.438610,12.480830 Coordinates of HAREM AltnWpt2=BOMBI Second waypoint of the alternate flightplan AltnWpt2Coordinates=48.438610,12.480830 Coordinates of BOMBI PerfData Section The PerfData section will only be used if “Load PERF INIT Data with Flightplan” is enabled on the Options page in CRJ Manager. Otherwise it will be ignored when the route is loaded. All values except the wind data default to ‐1 if not set. In this case, the FMS defaults will be loaded. CrzAlt Cruise Altitude (in feet) CrzAltAltn Cruise Altitude to Alternate Airport (in feet) PaxCnt Passenger count PaxWeight Average Passenger weight (lbs) CargoWeight Cargo weight (lbs) FuelWeight Fuel weight (lbs) WindDirClb Wind direction during climb (0‐359 degrees) WindSpdClb Wind speed during climb WindDirCrz Wind direction during cruise (0‐359 degrees) WindSpdCrz Wind speed during cruise WindDirDes Wind direction during descent (0‐359 degrees) WindSpdDes Wind speed during descent ISADev Deviation from ISA temperature (degrees Celsius) ResFuel Reserve fuel weight (lbs) TaxiFuel Taxi fuel weight (lbs) VNAVData Section The VNAVData section contains the transition altitude and level. Both are in feet. They can be loaded with the flight plan and will be used instead of the FMS default settings. TransAlt Transition altitude (in feet; “6000”) TransLvl Transition level (in feet; “7000”) Flightplan File Locations CRJ‐700/900X (does not support alternate flightplan legs): %USERPROFILE%\Documents\Aerosoft\Digital Aviation CRJ\Flightplans CRJ Professional (Prepar3D v4): %USERPROFILE%\Documents\Aerosoft\Aerosoft CRJ Pro\Flightplans CRJ Professional (Prepar3D v5): %USERPROFILE%\Documents\Aerosoft\Aerosoft CRJ Pro v5\Flightplans CRJ for Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS DVD or Microsoft Store Version): %LOCALAPPDATA%\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalState\packages\aerosoft‐crj\work CRJ for Microsoft Flight Simulator (Steam Version): %APPDATA%\\Microsoft Flight Simulator\Packages\aerosoft‐crj\work
March 18, 20215 yr Thank you for the kind words! What about this format? https://www.littlenavmap.org/manuals/littlenavmap/release/2.6/en/FLIGHTPLANFMT.html#aerosoft-crj Should work with the MSFS aircraft as well. Let me know if this is ok. Alex Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
March 19, 20215 yr Author Thanks. Didn't know those extra formats were there. I've just exported a flight plan using the lnm aerosoft crj format and the aircraft imported the dest and dept airports and correct cruise flight level but no waypoint fixes were included. I did a test with the same flight plan details using the simbrief export and the waypoints worked. Here are both files: Littlenav map [CoRte] ArptDep=LKLN ArptArr=EDBW RwyDep= SID= SID_Trans= STAR= STAR_Trans= RwyArr= RwyArrFinal= APPR_Trans= CoRoute= FltNo= Airway1=L132 Airway1FROM=KILNU Airway1TO=ABKIS Airway2=L132 Airway2FROM=ABKIS Airway2TO=EKPEK Airway3=L132 Airway3FROM=EKPEK Airway3TO=RIVSA Airway4=L132 Airway4FROM=RIVSA Airway4TO=OGSEN Airway5=L132 Airway5FROM=OGSEN Airway5TO=UNRIG Airway6=L132 Airway6FROM=UNRIG Airway6TO=PEPOL Airway7=L132 Airway7FROM=PEPOL Airway7TO=SONUD [PerfData] CrzAlt=29000 CrzAltAltn=-1 PaxCnt=-1 PaxWeight=-1 CargoWeight=-1 FuelWeight=-1 WindDirClb=0 WindSpdClb=0 WindDirCrz=0 WindSpdCrz=0 WindDirDes=0 WindSpdDes=0 ISADev=0 ResFuel=-1 TaxiFuel=-1 [VNAVData] TransAlt=18000 TransLvl=18000 Simbrief [CoRte] ArptDep=LKLN RwyDep=LKLN06 ArptArr=EDBW RwyArr=EDBW08 ArptAltn=EKCH SID= SIDEnrTrans= STAR= EnrSTARTrans= STARApprTrans= APPR_Trans=VECTORS RwyArrFINAL= CoRoute= FltNo=VHBLU DctWpt1=KILNU DctWpt1Coordinates=50.476944,12.911667 DctWpt2=ABKIS DctWpt2Coordinates=50.629694,13.057186 DctWpt3=EKPEK DctWpt3Coordinates=50.964494,13.321350 DctWpt4=RIVSA DctWpt4Coordinates=51.108539,13.366739 DctWpt5=OGSEN DctWpt5Coordinates=51.499722,13.471667 DctWpt6=UNRIG DctWpt6Coordinates=51.867500,13.593056 DctWpt7=PEPOL DctWpt7Coordinates=52.126111,13.682500 DctWpt8=SONUD DctWpt8Coordinates=52.269722,13.732500 [PerfData] CrzAlt=29000 CrzAltAltn=36000 PaxCnt=69 PaxWeight=174 CargoWeight=3795 FuelWeight=8024 WindDirClb=16 WindSpdClb=23 WindDirCrz=34 WindSpdCrz=81 WindDirDes=35 WindSpdDes=88 ISADev=-6 ResFuel=1326 TaxiFuel=500 [VNAVData] TransAlt=18000 TransLvl=18000
March 19, 20215 yr Thanks for the files. I'll check what's going on there but I don't own the aircraft since I cannot buy each add-ons for each export format. Have to compare the files. Alex Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
March 19, 20215 yr Same problem for me here. Here is a original (working) flightplan wich comes with the MSFS Aerosoft CRJ: [CoRte] ArptDep=EDLP RwyDep=EDLP06 ArptArr=EDDM RwyArr=EDDM08L ArptAltn=EDDS SID=WRB1X SIDEnrTrans= STAR=AKAN3A EnrSTARTrans= STARApprTrans= APPR_Trans=VECTORS RwyArrFINAL=I08L CoRoute= FltNo= Airway1=UL126 Airway1FROM=WRB Airway1TO=DINKU Airway2=L603 Airway2FROM=DINKU Airway2TO=AKANU DctWpt3= DctWpt3Coordinates=91.000000,181.000000 [PerfData] CrzAlt=-1 CrzAltAltn=-1 PaxCnt=-1 PaxWeight=185 CargoWeight=-1 FuelWeight=-1 WindDirClb=0 WindSpdClb=0 WindDirCrz=0 WindSpdCrz=0 WindDirDes=0 WindSpdDes=0 ISADev=0 ResFuel=1650 TaxiFuel=220 [VNAVData] TransAlt=5000 TransLvl=5000
March 19, 20215 yr Thanks. Plans from the aircraft are best to compare. Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
March 21, 20215 yr Please tell me, can we expect to be able to create flight plans in FLP format in the next update?
March 21, 20215 yr Never ask developer on public forum when exactly something would be made 😜 In general joke, but on x-plane.org developers' subforum it's very strictly respected rule. Regards, Piotr Never give up ... - here are details of the whip-round: https://zrzutka.pl/en/pewr2d -> to help my younger son fights against Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia (blood cancer).
March 21, 20215 yr I even don't know when the next release is due.🙃 Might be one or a few months depending on "suprises". I'll post a link with a test/development version here as soon as I have something to test. But please don't ask every day.😉 Alex Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
March 24, 20215 yr Author Just discovered something important. The CRJ flight plans need to have 8 characters in the file name. If there are files with more than 8 characters this causes ALL flight plans to not load. LNM exports with 10 characters in the filename. If the filename is changed to 8 characters then it partially works. The dept, dest and cruise level are imported correctly but no leg waypoints.
March 25, 20215 yr 15 hours ago, Steve4256 said: Just discovered something important. The CRJ flight plans need to have 8 characters in the file name. If there are files with more than 8 characters this causes ALL flight plans to not load. Are you sure? I just changed this a few months ago since some Aerosoft Airbus could not load the file due to a missing number at the end. 🙄 I'd report this to Aerosoft since it is really an unneeded restriction. X-Plane GPS, G1000 and the add-on aircraft I have can load all filenames, BTW. 🤷♂️ Have to see what can be done. Probably another export option. Alex Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
March 25, 20215 yr Author Originally, flight plans loaded ok into the fms, then all of them stopped loading. Then when I removed flight plans with more than 8 characters it fixed the problem and if I put those flight plans back it causes the problem again. Maybe another LNM export option is required.
March 25, 20215 yr @Steve4256Thank you for the confirmation. I think the number was added for the CRJ on FSX/P3D. Cannot find the email now. I can add an extra MSFS export option using eight characters if that helps. Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
March 25, 20215 yr Author Yeah another export option would be great. Might be required anyway to get the Legs info to be displayed. Plus the FMS main Flightplan page only shows an 8 character filename for the Route entry.
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