Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  

Pro ATC X email contact for Twitch streaming question.

Recommended Posts


I'm enjoying Pro ATC X, and had a question for the company regarding whether it is allowed to be used while streaming on Twitch. I have tried emailing them through their website's contact form twice in the past year, and unfortunately did not get a response.

  1. Has anyone on here been able to get a response from them, when using that form?
  2. Do they only respond if you use the same email as one used for a purchase?
  3. Does it help to send the email in German? If so, is there anyone that speaks German that can help by any chance?

I realize they have a forum as well, but I would prefer to use email, as the forum requires you register with your real name. Thanks for reading this and your time!

Share this post

Link to post

Pointsoft has a bit of reputation for going radio silent for long periods of time, as a visit to the forum would show. So to be honest I wouldn't expect a reply. You might get one but equally you might not. I don't think emailing them in German is likely to help, the project manager's name is Clive Joy and he posts in English on the forums.

That said, I'm not sure why you would need their permission to use the product on-stream. I don't believe they could stop you, provided you licensed the software correctly. I suppose if the license explicitly had a clause saying you agree not to stream it, maybe, but I doubt that would be enforceable. The dirty secret of software licensing is that much of it would not actually hold up in a court of law. I mean, do you have to ask LM for permission to use P3D on Twitch? Or HiFi for permission to use Active Sky? Or your aircraft vendor for permission to fly their aircraft on-stream, or ORBX for permission to show their scenery?

I suppose you could argue that the Pro-ATC/X voice files are similar to music, but while software is copyrighted just like music and video, merely using the software is not equivalent to copying it (unlike playing music), and streaming your video and audio while you run it does not make it so, as far as I know (though I should point out that I Am Not A Lawyer, nor do I play one on TV). Otherwise lots of sim streamers would be getting in trouble, and they aren't. Equally, I have Pro-ATC/X in my YouTube videos and while they get a laughably tiny audience I'm certainly not getting hit with Content ID on the ATC chatter audio.

I think the key difference is that playing music or video on-stream is a performance of that music or video, whereas merely using software (playing a game etc) is not. Otherwise, game companies could start suing Twitch streamers for allowing the in-game music to play on their stream while they are playing the game, or even for playing the game itself on-stream (the graphics are equally copyrighted). But the music is an essential part of the game and as long as the game itself is correctly licensed, I don't see they have a leg to stand on. Streaming literally couldn't exist if that were the case.

But again, IANAL.


  • Like 1

Host PC - 9700K @ 4.8GHz, 32GB DDR-3200, 512GB NVMe + 2TB NVMe storage, RTX 2080 SUPER primary + GTX 980Ti secondary GPU, AIO cooling
Client PC - 8700K @ 5GHz, 32GB DDR-3200, 512GB NVMe + 2TB NVMe storage, GTX 1080Ti GPU, AIO cooling
Software: Win10, P3D 5.1 HF1, tons of ORBX, ASP3D / FSGRW, SPAD.neXt, Immersive Display Pro and just too many others to mention...

Share this post

Link to post

@neilhewitt Thank you, sir, for the in-depth response! Very kind of you to take the time to answer the question in such length. You were on point that I am concerned about the voice audio files being similar to music in some ways.

I do indeed have a fully licensed copy, and just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss anything in the fine print.

Have a wonderful weekend!

Share this post

Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online

  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
  • Donation Goals

    AVSIM's 2020 Fundraising Goal

    Donate to our annual general fundraising goal. This donation keeps our doors open and providing you service 24 x 7 x 365. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. We reset this goal every new year for the following year's goal.

    $12,400.00 of $25,000.00 Donate Now
  • Create New...