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Waiting for SimConnect

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I recently upgraded to a new gammingPC running Win11. NO additional AV only defender. When I run aao it sticks on waiting for SimConnect. When I try and look at any of the menu's (trying to check the connection menu for example) I get "program not responding"  and the usual blue circle from windows. However without the sim running it works fine. I guess there is a simconnect issue but other apps that use sim connect (such as sky dolly) have no problem communicating to the sim.

I have tried using an older version of aao, and even tried replacing the simconnect.dll with the one from the MS2020 SK. No joy there either. 

The only info I found in the event log, doest help me very much.

Any suggestions ?

The program LorbyAxisAndOhs_MSFS.exe version 2.31.23.0 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Security and Maintenance control panel.
 Process ID: 3dc0
 Start Time: 01d8956759be7e1e
 Termination Time: 26
 Application Path: D:\MSFS Apps\LorbyAxisAndOhs_MSFS\LorbyAxisAndOhs_MSFS.exe
 Report Id: aad639ed-d1a6-4f9a-b0e8-453e93a547fa
 Faulting package full name: 
 Faulting package-relative application ID: 
 Hang type: Cross-thread

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Sorry, no idea. TMBK this has never happened before. The most likely scenario is that MSFS did not install the .Net libraries for SimConnect into the GAC, for whatever reason. Then SimConnect clients that were written in C++ would still work, but anything .Net (like AAO) won't.

Make sure that you don't have incompatible USB hardware getting AAO in trouble. Before attempting to connect to the sim, go to Hardware->Device Blacklist and put everything into the list on the right with the "Ignore" button that isn't a game controller that you want to use with AAO. This includes all mice and keyboards, plus StreamDeck and other HID devices - they must all be blacklisted. Keep only your yoke or joystick in the list on the left. Then restart AAO and try connecting again.

Also. don't mix DLLs, that will go wrong. AAO can only work with the two DLLs related to SimConnect that it has been shipped with. And make sure that .Net 4.8 is properly installed.
 

Just for the record, I am running the devel system for AAO in Windows 11 too with no issues.

Also, double check that you don't have any SimConnnect.ini file in Documents. And that your AntiVirus is not blocking AAO.

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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So I am not sure whats going on. I uninstalled MSFS2020 and ReInstalled from the xbox app. This is a brand new virgin win11 home pc, and still its not talking. I blacklisted the stream deck as advised, no other usb devices recorded other than the flight controllers. At present while testing only the TPM rudder pedels.

AS its win11 .Net 4.8 is in the system already and not possible to load as a standard product.

 

I thought it may be defender so I turned it off, still not working, checked the firewall settings anyway, network profile is Private, and lorbys is allowed  through the firewall and added in defender exeptions. 

SO all in all a complete mystery, I was thinking of upgrading windows to pro, but that doesnt make sense, perhaps a wiresharke trace but I dont know which port simconnect uses, come to that I wouldnt know what network messages I would look for anyway :-(

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10 minutes ago, MarkRussell said:

wiresharke trace but I dont know which port simconnect uses

Default SimConnect uses pipes, I'm not sure that you can trace those.

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So I am not sure whats going on.

I don't have any clue either.

Just to be sure, check and possibly install the VC redists for VS2019, that AAO has been built with. And don't start AAO before you start the sim. Wait until you are sitting in the cockpit (really IN the cockpit, don't use an external camera) before connecting AAO.

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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For the sake of other users that may have this problem

OK, so I was having a number of problems I took a sledgehammer approach.

Reformatted the HDD and did a fresh install of Win11Pro FS2020 everything. AAO would then fail to start and the event logs showed a .net problem. I downloaded the vc 2019 https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe from MS and it all works :-)

What was the cause... I have not idea, it may have been the manufacturer of my new pc was kind enough to ship it with Norton....( I HATE THAT PRODUCT!!!!) Which in my haste I didnt remove till after installing everything. When I did unistal it, using their removal tool, it kept trying to put it back on every time I booted, That may well have been the problem.

Thanks for your advice.

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