...in both MSFS2020 and MSFS2024.

I had temporarily dropped MSFS2024 SU3 with a number of different aircraft struggling with judders and stutters and decided, based on comments from a number of SU4 beta users about performance improvements, that I would return to it once SU4 was fully released.  But, having downloaded Black Square's new pair in both sims, I thought I would give them both a try out in both sims.  

I tried Bonanza and it was as smooth in 2024 as it was in 2020...and that was a great start as there are still a lot of aircraft that are unusable in SU3 for me on my rig and preferred settings.    

And, although the Bonanza was the real reason I bought the pair, I was still very interested what the Baron was going to be like...

...and in MSFS2024, with the Black Square Baron, I have just had the very best VR flight I have EVER had in ANY sim !

And I've been VR simming pretty much since it became feasible (X-plane 11 ; X-plane 12; Aerofly FS2; IL2; DCS; MSFS2020; MSFS2024, etc, etc).

It was a relatively short flight, EGBB Birmingham to EGCC Manchester.  Towards sunset with relatively clear skies.  FSHUD, which had picked up that this was a VORDME flight and treated me accordingly.  Everything felt so real.  The Baron felt so real.  The visuals were absolutely spectacular.  Smooth as silk internal and external views.  FSHUD ATC brought me in on a VORDME procedure.  Hand flown down the glide path, using all of the techniques and tips and tricks I could remember from flight sims and the occasional RL experience to the smoothest landing I think I can ever remember achieving.  

I am delighted with my new purchase from Just Flight.  Very Happy Chappy 🙂 

Edited October 30, 2025Oct 30 by AJZip2

Good to hear, I am considering purchasing this bundle as well soon.

Can you tell how it compares to A2A's comanche and/or aerostar in VR ?

10 hours ago, avhpilot said:

Good to hear, I am considering purchasing this bundle as well soon.

Can you tell how it compares to A2A's comanche and/or aerostar in VR ?

I have both so later today I'll see if I can do a similar flight.  From the last time I flew the A2A Comanche, I would say the fidelity is at an equally high standard.  The Comanche has some older technology, though, especially the early autopilot system.  The Aerostar is different in terms of flight feel, clearly, but I would say that the fidelity of the modelling is also similar.  Later on I'll try all three one after another.   

I will add - and can't quite put my finger on it - the Baron has an added x-factor when it comes to immersion on my system.  The BS Grand Duke is splendid, but the Baron even adds a certain who-knows-what to that for me.

Edited November 1, 2025Nov 1 by AJZip2

26 minutes ago, AJZip2 said:

I will add - and can't quite put my finger on it - the Baron has an added x-factor when it comes to immersion on my system.  The BS Grand Duke is splendid, but the Baron even adds a certain who-knows-what to that for me.

When I think back - and this was the same for the Bonanza when I flew it last night - in all cases for the Baron and Bonanza I was hand flying a VORDME arrival in live weather with varying crosswinds of up to 30degrees.  When I think back, it was how that felt that gave me the shivers.

Edited November 1, 2025Nov 1 by AJZip2

17 hours ago, avhpilot said:

Good to hear, I am considering purchasing this bundle as well soon.

Can you tell how it compares to A2A's comanche and/or aerostar in VR ?

OK - the normal disclaimer that these are my personal observations and that I have never piloted any of the three aircraft in real life and have simply, and a while ago, flown as front seat passenger and had a brief try of the controls in something similar to the Comanche and Bonanza normally aspirated.

Conditions: light crosswind (6mph at  c 50 degrees to runway.

A2A Comanche - I-LEOX

Really looks inside like a well loved and used aircraft of a modestly past era.  Very nice detail of paint chips to the dashboard.  Dials glass mainly on the matt side. Nice visuals inside and out and, again, looks like it has been well used.  Sounds are great and it flys nicely.  Maybe a touch smoother than I would have expected, especially as a rookie pilot but nicely challenging to get a smooth landing.

Black Square Bonanza (normal aspirated)

More modern instruments, a 'newer' look.  Clear glass dials.  But, accepting you are in a more modern and newer aircraft, just as convincing.  Flying, definitely more affected by the occasional gusts and turbulence.  Again, a nicely challenging landing - to me, it felt less on the rails and a teeny bit more lifelike (but who knows).  External visuals a newer, shinier aircraft...but it is.

 

I am very happy flying either.  They both feel pretty realistic.  They both sound great.  They both work very well in VR

 

Ref the Aerostar - I was mixing that up with the Starfire (hence my comment ref the technology).  I don't have the Aerostar but do have the BS Grand Duke...and LOVE it in VR.  And - to my utter surprise - I love the new BS Baron even more!!