January 13Jan 13 Hello, I bought AAO with Simmarket last week (before that, i tested the demo version without issue). I use it for my Stream Deck XL, with MSFS 2024 (store version). It worked very well, until yesterday. Now, when I launch MSFS, the app doesn't autostart now. When I open Task Manager, I can see AAO running in background, but I can't open the user interface. Eventually, it will open by itself after 15-20 minutes I tried uninstall/reinstall the app. Also checked with the demo version, but I still have the same issue. I checked the startup log in Appdata/Local/LORBY_SI Spoiler 13/01/2026 13:20:58.478 : User data folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents 13/01/2026 13:20:58.479 : Sound folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Sounds 13/01/2026 13:20:58.479 : Scripts folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Scripts 13/01/2026 13:20:58.479 : Web server folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\WebPages 13/01/2026 13:20:58.479 : Grammars folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Grammars 13/01/2026 13:20:58.479 : Screenshot folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Pictures\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 13/01/2026 13:20:58.479 : Simulator files folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 13/01/2026 13:20:58.479 : Aicraft modules folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\AircraftModules 13/01/2026 13:20:58.844 : App configuration loaded 13/01/2026 13:20:58.849 : Config database loaded 13/01/2026 13:20:58.993 : Simulator activated 13/01/2026 13:20:58.993 : Waking up DirectInput 13/01/2026 13:20:59.53 : Done 13/01/2026 13:21:59.395 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23614b0-2836-11f0-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.401 : Found Device Stream Deck XL 8e009710-cfbc-11f0-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.408 : Added Device Stream Deck XL 8e009710-cfbc-11f0-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.409 : Found Device AURA LED Controller c7b48ae0-9f9b-11ef-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.410 : Found Device USB Keyboard c7b48ae0-9f9b-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.461 : Added Device USB Keyboard c7b48ae0-9f9b-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.461 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f5d10-ae6b-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.462 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f8420-ae6b-11ef-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.463 : Found Device Appareil HID d'infrastructure HID virtuelle (VHF) 84dab810-ae83-11ef-800c-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.464 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f8420-ae6b-11ef-8003-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:21:59.465 : Found Device Périphérique de contrôle consommateur conforme aux Périphériques d'interface utilisateur (HID) a23fab30-ae6b-11ef-8004-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:23:19.588 : Added Device Périphérique de contrôle consommateur conforme aux Périphériques d'interface utilisateur (HID) a23fab30-ae6b-11ef-8004-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:23:19.589 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d2363bc0-2836-11f0-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:23:19.590 : Found Device Contrôleur système HID a23fab30-ae6b-11ef-8005-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:24:19.701 : Added Device Contrôleur système HID a23fab30-ae6b-11ef-8005-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:24:19.702 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23662d0-2836-11f0-8003-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:24:19.749 : Added Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23662d0-2836-11f0-8003-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:24:19.750 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23fd240-ae6b-11ef-8006-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:24:19.751 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23662d0-2836-11f0-8004-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:24:19.787 : Added Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23662d0-2836-11f0-8004-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:25:19.951 : Found Joystick S-TECS MODERN THROTTLE MAX 92e82ee0-bb37-11ef-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:25:19.956 : Added Joystick S-TECS MODERN THROTTLE MAX 92e82ee0-bb37-11ef-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:29:20.516 : Found FirstPerson VKBsim Gladiator EVO R f0fa0540-bb36-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:29:20.517 : Added FirstPerson VKBsim Gladiator EVO R f0fa0540-bb36-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:33:21.162 : Acquiring devices now 13/01/2026 13:33:21.165 : Initialized Stream Deck XL;8e009710-cfbc-11f0-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:33:21.176 : Initialized USB Keyboard;c7b48ae0-9f9b-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:33:41.223 : Initialized Périphérique de contrôle consommateur conforme aux Périphériques d'interface utilisateur (HID);a23fab30-ae6b-11ef-8004-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:34:01.261 : Initialized Contrôleur système HID;a23fab30-ae6b-11ef-8005-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:34:01.272 : Initialized ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz);d23662d0-2836-11f0-8003-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:34:01.285 : Initialized ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz);d23662d0-2836-11f0-8004-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:34:01.285 : Initialized S-TECS MODERN THROTTLE MAX ;92e82ee0-bb37-11ef-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:34:01.285 : Initialized VKBsim Gladiator EVO R ;f0fa0540-bb36-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 13:34:01.285 : Device acquisition completed 13/01/2026 13:34:01.385 : Running As Administrator, Web FIPs enabled I don't know if it's an issue with some hardware listed in the log. Thanks for the help !
January 13Jan 13 Commercial Member Yes, this sounds like an issue with incompatible hardware. The question is, why now? Did you get anything new? When AAO is open, before doing anything else, go to "Hardware->Device Blacklist". Move everything into the list on the right with the "Ignore" button that isn't a game controller that you want to actually use in AAO. Ignoring also includes all mice, keyboards and the StreamDeck - AAO talks to those through other means. Then restart AAO. LORBY-SI
January 13Jan 13 Author Thanks for the quick answer. No, I didn't change anything (or at least, I don't remember). I used the sim yesterday, AAO was started with the sim. Then, I closed the sim + AAO, and at the next launch, I had this problem. I did the device blacklist, it's shorter to start, but it's still take many time (10 minutes to launch). I moved everything into the list on the right, including the Streamdeck. Here the new startup log Spoiler 13/01/2026 22:51:42.216 : User data folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents 13/01/2026 22:51:42.216 : Sound folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Sounds 13/01/2026 22:51:42.216 : Scripts folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Scripts 13/01/2026 22:51:42.217 : Web server folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\WebPages 13/01/2026 22:51:42.217 : Grammars folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Grammars 13/01/2026 22:51:42.217 : Screenshot folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Pictures\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 13/01/2026 22:51:42.217 : Simulator files folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 13/01/2026 22:51:42.217 : Aicraft modules folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\AircraftModules 13/01/2026 22:51:42.483 : App configuration loaded 13/01/2026 22:51:42.531 : Config database loaded 13/01/2026 22:51:42.632 : Simulator activated 13/01/2026 22:51:42.632 : Waking up DirectInput 13/01/2026 22:51:42.678 : Done 13/01/2026 22:52:43.24 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23614b0-2836-11f0-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 22:52:43.30 : Found Device AURA LED Controller c7b48ae0-9f9b-11ef-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 22:52:43.31 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f5d10-ae6b-11ef-8001-444553540000 13/01/2026 22:52:43.32 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f8420-ae6b-11ef-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 22:52:43.33 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f8420-ae6b-11ef-8003-444553540000 13/01/2026 22:52:43.34 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d2363bc0-2836-11f0-8002-444553540000 13/01/2026 22:52:43.35 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23fd240-ae6b-11ef-8006-444553540000 13/01/2026 23:01:44.293 : Acquiring devices now 13/01/2026 23:01:44.293 : Device acquisition completed 13/01/2026 23:01:44.307 : Running As Administrator, Web FIPs enabled ROG Delta II is my headset, AURA LED seems to be a LED controller with my motherboard. But I don't know what is the three HID Devices (périphérique fournisseur). Maybe something related to my keyboard/mouse. All these devices doesn't appear in the "device blacklist" menu. In game, everything work very well, I tested my streamdeck with a profile for the FSS Embraer 190 wIthout issue. But I don't understand why it take 10 minutes for the "acquiring devices now" stage on the startup log.
January 13Jan 13 Commercial Member 26 minutes ago, AquilaeAFR said: I did the device blacklist, i That can't be right, there are still devices in "Found Device..." that don't belong there. They should all be on the blacklist.There should only be your joystick and TQ on the left. Why is that? You can force AAO to blacklist absolutely everything by starting the exe manually with the command line argument "-blacklistall" After that, your shouldn't see any entry with "Found Device". You can then get your joystick and TQ back using the dialog. 31 minutes ago, AquilaeAFR said: But I don't understand why it take 10 minutes for the "acquiring devices now" stage on the startup log. One of your HID devices doesn't like to be queried, even if it is just about the name and GUID. That can happen. The real question is, why this happens now and not before. Something must have changed on your computer? LORBY-SI
January 14Jan 14 Author Okay... I don't understand why, but... now it's finally work, the app start within 3-5 secondes. The only thing I did since my last message (after blacklist the devices listed in the menu) was turn off my PC before going to sleep... Here the new start log. It seems the problem with the HID devices is gone. Spoiler 14/01/2026 22:12:02.58 : User data folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents 14/01/2026 22:12:02.58 : Sound folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Sounds 14/01/2026 22:12:02.58 : Scripts folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Scripts 14/01/2026 22:12:02.58 : Web server folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\WebPages 14/01/2026 22:12:02.58 : Grammars folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Grammars 14/01/2026 22:12:02.58 : Screenshot folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Pictures\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 14/01/2026 22:12:02.60 : Simulator files folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 14/01/2026 22:12:02.60 : Aicraft modules folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\AircraftModules 14/01/2026 22:12:02.438 : App configuration loaded 14/01/2026 22:12:02.490 : Config database loaded 14/01/2026 22:12:02.625 : Simulator activated 14/01/2026 22:12:02.625 : Waking up DirectInput 14/01/2026 22:12:02.686 : Done 14/01/2026 22:12:03.70 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23614b0-2836-11f0-8001-444553540000 14/01/2026 22:12:03.77 : Found Device AURA LED Controller c7b48ae0-9f9b-11ef-8002-444553540000 14/01/2026 22:12:03.78 : Found Device Appareil HID d'infrastructure HID virtuelle (VHF) 84dab810-ae83-11ef-800c-444553540000 14/01/2026 22:12:03.82 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d2363bc0-2836-11f0-8002-444553540000 14/01/2026 22:12:03.924 : Acquiring devices now 14/01/2026 22:12:03.924 : Device acquisition completed 14/01/2026 22:12:03.946 : Running As Administrator, Web FIPs enabled 14/01/2026 22:12:03.966 : SimConnect established to confing index 0 14/01/2026 22:12:04.90 : SH: Connected to Simulator SunRise Version 12.2.0 14/01/2026 22:12:04.91 : SH: Connected to SimConnect Version 12.2 Build 0.0 14/01/2026 22:12:05.541 : Web API established 14/01/2026 22:12:06.53 : Startup complete The only remaining issue is now, AAO doesn't start automatically with the sim, I need to start it manually. I have the option activated in the "application" menu. I don't know if it's a problem with my exe.xml file, as I saw on others topics that some people had the same issue with this. Here is my exe.xml (in the Microsoft.Limitless_8wekyb3d8bbwe/LocalCache file) Spoiler <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <SimBase.Document Type="SimConnect" version="1,0"> <Descr>SimConnect</Descr> <Filename>SimConnect.xml</Filename> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Launch.Addon> <Name>Couatl</Name> <Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\couatl64\couatl64_boot.exe</Path> <Disabled>False</Disabled> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>FenixA320</Name> <Path>C:\Program Files\FenixSim A320\deps\FenixBootstrapper.exe</Path> <Disabled>false</Disabled> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>FS2Crew Command Center</Name> <Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\FS2Crew Command Center\FS2CrewCommandCenter.exe</Path> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <CommandLine /> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>FS2Crew Fenix A320 Custom Liveries Patcher</Name> <Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\FS2Crew Animated FO Fenix A320 Project\liveries_patcher\fs2crew_fenix_a320_liveries_patcher.exe</Path> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <CommandLine>sp</CommandLine> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>LorbyAxisAndOhs</Name> <Path>C:\Program Files\LorbyAxisAndOhs_MSFS24\LorbyAxisAndOhs_MSFS2024.exe</Path> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad> <CommandLine /> <NewConsole>False</NewConsole> </Launch.Addon> </SimBase.Document>
January 14Jan 14 Commercial Member 47 minutes ago, AquilaeAFR said: The only remaining issue is now, AAO doesn't start automatically with the sim, I need to start it manually. I awlays do it the other way around, AAO starts the sim on my PC. That way I don't have to apply tricks to run it "As Administrator". Instead of "Start automaticall with the sim" I have "Always Start as Admin", "Connect automatically" and "Start simulator before connecting" active in my Application menu. 47 minutes ago, AquilaeAFR said: Here is my exe.xml (in the Microsoft.Limitless_8wekyb3d8bbwe/LocalCache file) I have seen those exe.xml files before. They are invalid, this is a repurposed SimConnect.xml file. No idea why they are working at all. Other than that, the entry for AAO looks fine to me. Edited January 14Jan 14 by Lorby_SI LORBY-SI
January 16Jan 16 Author OK... everything was well 2 days ago, but the initial issue is back (and I don't know why). AAO works but it needs 10 minutes to start. Here is the new startup log. It seem it's the same problem with one of a HID device. Spoiler 16/01/2026 22:41:34.986 : User data folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents 16/01/2026 22:41:34.994 : Sound folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Sounds 16/01/2026 22:41:34.994 : Scripts folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Scripts 16/01/2026 22:41:34.994 : Web server folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\WebPages 16/01/2026 22:41:34.994 : Grammars folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\Grammars 16/01/2026 22:41:34.994 : Screenshot folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Pictures\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 16/01/2026 22:41:34.994 : Simulator files folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Files 16/01/2026 22:41:34.994 : Aicraft modules folder set: C:\Users\Taylor\Documents\LorbyAxisAndOhs Files\AircraftModules 16/01/2026 22:41:35.260 : App configuration loaded 16/01/2026 22:41:35.302 : Config database loaded 16/01/2026 22:41:35.410 : Simulator activated 16/01/2026 22:41:35.410 : Waking up DirectInput 16/01/2026 22:41:35.459 : Done 16/01/2026 22:42:35.776 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d23614b0-2836-11f0-8001-444553540000 16/01/2026 22:42:35.783 : Found Device AURA LED Controller c7b48ae0-9f9b-11ef-8002-444553540000 16/01/2026 22:42:35.784 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f5d10-ae6b-11ef-8001-444553540000 16/01/2026 22:42:35.784 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f8420-ae6b-11ef-8002-444553540000 16/01/2026 22:42:35.784 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23f8420-ae6b-11ef-8003-444553540000 16/01/2026 22:42:35.784 : Found Device ROG DELTA II (2.4GHz) d2363bc0-2836-11f0-8002-444553540000 16/01/2026 22:42:35.788 : Found Device Périphérique fournisseur HID a23fd240-ae6b-11ef-8006-444553540000 16/01/2026 22:51:36.927 : Acquiring devices now 16/01/2026 22:51:36.927 : Device acquisition completed 16/01/2026 22:51:36.941 : Running As Administrator, Web FIPs enabled As you can see, all the devices that appear in the "device blacklist" window are in the ignored list. Despite that, I don't know AAO finds others devices. On 1/13/2026 at 11:44 PM, Lorby_SI said: You can force AAO to blacklist absolutely everything by starting the exe manually with the command line argument "-blacklistall" After that, your shouldn't see any entry with "Found Device". You can then get your joystick and TQ back using the dialog. At this point, this solution looks like the best thing to do. How can I do to start the app manually ? With the Windows+R shortcut ? If yes, I just need to write LorbyAxisAndOhs_MSFS2024"-blacklistall" ? Sorry for the dumb question, I never use this menu.
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