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Yesterday I posted my question on the NavData Forum. I was told that it was a scenery problem and was offered no assistance.The problem is: When putting in the localizer frequency, I don't get any glideslopes at Denver Int'l. None apparent when approaching either. Other airports have one or two missing glideslopes but none as severe as Denver. Many airports have all good glideslopes. Any thoughts?Jeffrey

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I neglected to say that I'm using FS2002.Jeffrey

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And are you using the default scenery or some sort of addon?

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It's the default Denver scenery, but I added gates and signs which I don't think would make any difference.Jeffrey

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Hi,I can send you my AFCAD1.4 default KDEN-file FS2002, so that you can test it.Greetz. Jos

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Hi,By the way... you can always restore the default Afcad-file (in your case: Denver KDEN.Greetz. Jos

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I have kicked this problem around at another forum. Some responders said that they had glidescopes at airports on runways where I didn't have any. Others mentioned AFCAD and Ttools, but did not tell me how to get glidescopes using these two tools. If I don't have glidescopes and others do, it seems to me that I have some problem with a scenery .bgl. I'm looking for a way to get into the Denver and other airports scenery program where I don't have glidescopes and others do. I'm looking for some file that, for example, might say "Glidescope--no," and I can change it to "Glidescope--yes."Can anyone say for a fact that AFCAD can provide a glidescope where one currently does not exist? If you can, please tell me the section number in the AFCAD manual where this can be accomplished.Having read the AFCAD manual it appears that AFCAD only covers AI aircraft and their movement from place to place and around a particular airport and changes no visible scenery. If that is wrong please correct me.Somehow I think the solution is probably quite simple, possibly some misstep inadvertantly made by me.Jeffrey

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Jose,I have not used AFCAD with Denver (KDEN). The only airport where I used AFCAD is Miami Int'l (KMIA) and all runways there with localizers also have glidescopes. Jeffrey

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Hi,Have send you my default Afcad-file for KDEN. Plus the latest FSUIPC for FS2002 and the freeware AIView.dll (so that you can follow the AI aircraft).Maybe AFCAD 1.4 is become corrupt and you need a reinstall.TTOOLS is only for configurating the flightplans for AI aircraft (using the maps Aircraft, Airports and Flightplans).Greetz. Jos

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Hi,This screenshot shows KDEN with the needed Navaids.Hope this helps. Jos

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Jose,Thank you for the material you sent.At present when I go to Denver(KDEN) and am at the end of runway 7 and punch in localizer frequency 111.55, in either the VOR Indicator of the Horizontal Situation Indicaton (depending on which aircraft I use), the localizer(left-right) appears but there is no Glideslope (up-down).Before I install your downloads and so that I understand what's happening here, please confirm that after installing your downloads and then punching in the above localizer frequency at runway 7, I should now have glideslopes in the above gauges.As you can tell I'm not fully conversant with AFCAD yet, but am working on it.

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Hi,I have flown a circuit: departing from rwy 7 and landing on the same runway 7 with the frequency set on 111.55.The glideslope is working... but for this you have to activate the corresponding NAV (1 or 2)... If you activate MRK, you will hear the sound of the markers.So there is nothing wrong with the Afcad-file for KDEN. You may not forget to activate the corresponding NAV and not forget to set the frequency from standby to active. Greetz. Jos

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Jose,I guess what I need to know is did your glideslope work properly on runway 7 at Denver (KDEM) before you downloaded and used AFCAD? If your glideslope worked before AFCAD then were back to square one. You seem to be suggesting by your responses that AFCAD solved your own glideslope problem. Is that what you are saying, ie. your glideslope didn't work until you used AFCAD?I know how to activate localizers and glideslopes and most of them work fine. One thing I don't know is exactly what you mean by activating the MRK. My aircraft have three marker buttons which activate when I reach each marker position in flight. Does MKR have anything to do with my glideslope problem?Jeffrey

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Hi,I cannot answer your first question because I live in Belgium (Europe) and flying to Denver (KDEN) is not exactly the first airport I am flying on (how beautifull, great and well known this airport may be); and second: I installed AFCAD immediately to run AI aircraft. The Afcad default files are the reflection of the default scenery. After that, you can alter the settings as yo wish.You said that you changed some parkings and "signs"... what do you mean by "signs" ?"Most of them work fine"... Are there some who doesn't work ?What for aircraft do you fly ? Does this happen with all your aircraft ? Even the default ones ? Do not use aircraft who are meant to be used in FS9. They will not work anyway with a specific panel and gauges for FS9. Have you in MODULES the sound.dll ? Do not overwrite gauges when installing new aircraft and gauges. Further: by activating MRK you will hear the signal by passing these markers... very usefull during a landing at night. It doesn't affect your glideslope.Greetz. Jos

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I must admit that I'm confused and a little frustrated in my attempt to solve the glideslope problem. Please note the following:Taken from the AFCAD manual file. "The NAVAID information contained in facility files does not have any affect on how your aircraft

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I only have AFCAD 2.21. Under the heading "Changes for the Release 2.21", the manual states "AFCAD can now create, move, and modify navaids... " This implies that earlier versions (for FS2002?) didn't allow this. So it may be that FS2002 navaids can't be modified by AFCAD.

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Hi,This has no sense... I send our man my Afcad and the problem was not solved.I just had a chat with a college and he has the same problem. Maybe a reinstall of FS2002 or better a reinstall of the airport of Denver alone would solve te problem. But I do not know how to do that.Greetz. Jos

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Hi,Here is a way to copy and paste the KDEN .bgl file from your original FS Disc number 3.If you have FSNavigator and you point your mouse on runway 7 (or another runway) you will see also the address of the .bgl-file in Scenedb. Hope this will solve your problem.So open your FS Disc 3 and go to SCENEDB and click NOT on Open, but on the button who let you see the contence of Scenedb.Go further to Westhem and do the same. Then go to usnc and search for F5284531.bgl . Copy and paste this .bgl-file into to same directory in FS: FS2002ScenedbWesthemusncScenery. Before you backup the file who is now in FS !Greetz. Jos

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I haven't been following this thread, but in FS2002, the facility data is controlled by AFD files edited by AFCAD 1. But, the aircraft responds to different files, that are edited by a program called EasyNavs 2K (EN2K410.zip). This program will extract all the navaid data out of the appropriate file into a data base, which you can then review and/or edit. Then you can resave the file, but you need the FS2002 BGLC SDK.scott s..

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Jose,As you suggested, I copied and pasted F5284531 from Disc 3 to my usnc/scenery, but unfortunately I still don't have a glideslope on rwy 7. Good try though. Scott,I've been using EasyNav and haven't been able to find an applicable .bgl file. Everyone I try to open says,"....not a VOR/ILS navaids file." Even F5284531 above which appears to control rwy 7 at Denver won't open in EasyNav.Can you recommend any particular "FS2002 BGLC SDK" scenery program that might help me get glideslopes at various runways at a specific airport? I have AFCAD Version 1.4 for FS2002 and can't find anything that will give me a glideslope. If it does please give me the relevant Section number.Regards,Jeffrey

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Hi,Well... you could reinstall FS2002... but will you do this for one missing glideslope ? Maybe you can use this as an opportinity to land manualy without the guidance of a glideslope.Sorry that I cannot help you.Greetz. Jos

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Jose,Thanks for sticking with me on this.You're probably right. I can live with a few bad glideslopes.Regards,Jeffrey

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