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FSD Cheyenne 400 POH??

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I am thinking of purchase, however can anyone tell me if the Pilots Operating Handbook that is available on their site is the same one that comes with the purchased product? It appears that it is quite lacking in information dealing specifically with 'flying' this aircraft vs. brief descriptions on the various instrumentation.

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I am not aware of any POH, real-world or simulator-world, that endeavors to show you how to fly. Automobile manuals don't tell you how to drive either.So I am at a loss to understand what you are looking for. Many users have commented that they thought our POH was "overkill". One actually complained that it was "too long...it needs to be more brief and concise".I guess ya' just can't win. :-hanghttp://www.fsheartland.net/images/Signature.gifhttp://www.fsd-international.comhttp://www.fsheartland.net

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I for one found your POH to be perfect.Every gage is explained and it tell me where everything is and the plane specifics are there.Nice plane by the way.RonCVA1701

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I love the Cheyenne, but i think FSD has something to learn from Dreamfleet, PIC and PMDG in the manual department. The POH describes the panel well, but is not exactly overabundant with info about procedures and performance.

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Yes, I agree. And there will be more information coming. The DreamFleet Pilot Information Manual is an exact copy of some of the data from the real-world aircraft manual, and while it is interesting to read, if you are bandwidth-challenged, and downloading another 7 MB is in fact a very big deal, you really don

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Please do not take my question as an afront to your product. You are quite correct about the POH containing performance criteria (as in the real world). I guess what I was looking for was some information on the actual operation of the aircraft for real world flight operations. A very few examples would be; Fuel flows, engine pressures, climb cruize and descent and approach engine and airframe parameters. Another example would be like an explanation on power settings for final approach and which instruments do you utilize to target and monitor these settings.You again are correct that the Operating Handbooks for both automobiles and aircraft do not teach you how to fly, but in reality somebody or somthing does. I guess that is type of thing for this particular complex high performance aircraft that I am looking for. Just some general tips for an actual pilot if you will. The sample (short and consice) narrated flights from actual real life pilots that we see in other payware packages works well. Thank your for your time.

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I take no offense to your original post. A legitimate question posted in a respectful way. After some that I (we) have had in the past its downright friendly. :-ukliamThe additions I will be making will contain a lot of what you are looking for. Things like airframe parameters, if you are asking for stress and torque values, are not even published by Piper. AT least as far as I know of. But there will be a lot of new stuff in there.http://www.fsheartland.net/images/Signature.gifhttp://www.fsd-international.comhttp://www.fsheartland.net

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Thank you, I will be purchasing shortly. Do you have an estimated time frame on the availability of the updated manual?

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Tim, us dial-up prisoners who are also incredibly impatient to get their hands on the latest FSD aircraft appreciate your brevity!!Best of both worlds would be to have the basic POH included in the main download with the option of downloading a more "extended" manual. I, for one, could not handle another 30minutes-plus wait to get the ac in the air, but would be most appreciative of additional info and real-world procedures/suggestions if I could download it later at my leisure.michaelSingle: FSD CommanderTwin: FSD CheyenneMedium: ERJ-145's with Bill G's panelBig: PIC 767Been ages since I've flown a plane other than these four incredible gifts!

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This is exactly the reason why I did not originally put all of that material from the Piper POH in the manual. Let's face it, the vast majority of it is window dressing. You can't pour oil into your FSD Cheyenne, so not much point publishing the viscosity specs. Folks like you on a dialup really get whacked.A lot of what is being discussed here is already on the Specs page of our POH. I will add some more as well, but if I do add some of this window dressing stuff, it will definitely be in a separate PDF to download.I feel your pain. Keep an eye on our support forum for the status on all this.Keep the blue on top!http://www.fsheartland.net/images/Signature.gifhttp://www.fsd-international.comhttp://www.fsheartland.net

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