Thanks to all,
yes Budbud, I meant following a radial from/to a VOR. I did it so long in the second described way. Now I will take my experience in the first described way.
Flex1978, I wil try your hint as well, I find him plausible,cause it 's fitting more to my former experiences, cause in my opinion a plane should to be navigated without feeding fmc.
Toddy747