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Hey Dave, My actions -Created, validated, and filed a VFR flight plan KDAL direct KAUS at 12,500. -Requested flight following from KDAL clearance but received no response. -Requested ready to copy VFR clearance and got my response -After departure with tower, I am told frequency change approved but not handed off to another controller. -From this point forward its basically radio silence, I try calling up nearby departure frequencies to request flight following but I receive no response. -Nearing KAUS, I call up approach and tower and request landing but get no response. Potential cause -I'm exclusively using SayIt. I noticed that after my departure, none of my broadcasts were turning green. I take that to mean that it wasn't being correctly registered or accepted? VFR flight suggestions -IMO it would be more realistic to initiate VFR flight following with a "request for flight following" from either ground or clearance control, rather than "ready to copy VFR clearance". With the clearance instructions I would expect to receive a departure frequency. -On my taxi out from KDAL, ground handed me off to tower in order to cross the runway. This was a little awkward and I think would be an exception rather than the norm (ground issuing runway crossings if ground control exists). -With my takeoff clearance with tower, I would expect to receive some sort of direction. Either a departure heading or at the very least a "proceed on course after departure". On a sidenote, I've had several beautiful IFR flights in a row and its been a joy. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the massive undertaking. Simulator Connected Recognition Engine Installed Grammars Loaded NextWpt: TOD ~Beech Five One Alpha ready to copy VFR Clearance Beech Five One Alpha Ready to Copy VFR Clearance; Beech Five One Alpha Cleared VFR to Kilo Alpha Uniform Siera at , One Two Thousand , Five Hundred feet . Squawk One Two Zero Zero ~ Cleared VFR to Kilo Alpha Uniform Siera at , One Two Thousand , Five Hundred feet . Squawk One Two Zero Zero Beech Five One Alpha ~Beech Five One Alpha request taxi to runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha Request Taxi to Runway One Three Right; State Change to: TaxiOut Beech Five One Alpha Taxi to Runway One Three Right Via Taxiways Hotel, Charlie Six, Charlie, Hold Short Runway One Three Right, and Runway One Three Right ~ Taxi to Runway One Three Right Via Taxiways Hotel, Charlie Six, Charlie, Hold Short Runway One Three Right, and Runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha Beech Five One Alpha Runway One Three Right is currently active. Contact Tower on One Two Three Point Seven to cross. ~Tower on One Two Three Point Seven to cross. Beech Five One Alpha Tower on ONE 2 Three Point Seven to cross Beech Five One Alpha; ~Beech Five One Alpha waiting to cross Runway Three One Right Beech Five One Alpha Waiting to CROSS Runway Three One Right; ~Beech Five One Alpha waiting to cross Runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha waiting to cross Runway One Three Right; Beech Five One Alpha Cleared to cross Runway One Three Right ~Cleared to cross Runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha Cleared to cross Runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha; ~Beech Five One Alpha ready for departure runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha Ready for Departure Runway One Three Right; State Change to: ClearedForTakeoff State Change to: TakeoffVFR Beech Five One Alpha Whinds are One Eight Zero at One Three knots Altimeter is Two Niner Niner One Cleared for takeoff, Runway One Three Right ~Cleared for takeoff, Runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha Cleared for Takeoff Runway One Three Right Beech Five One Alpha; State Change to: DepartureVFR Beech Five One Alpha goodday , frequency change approved. ~Beech Five One Alpha requesting VFR Flight Following from Kilo Delta Alpha Lima to Kilo Alpha Uniform Siera at One Two Thousand Five Hundred feet ~Beech Five One Alpha would like VFR Flight Following from Kilo Delta Alpha Lima to Kilo Alpha Uniform Siera at One Two Thousand Five Hundred feet NextWpt: AUSTIN BERGSTROM INTL ~Beech Five One Alpha inbound at Eight Thousand One Hundred feet request ILS Approach to runway One Three Right You can say: Beech Five One Alpha is <AirportDistance> <BearingFromAirport> at Six Thousand Five Hundred feet request transit of <AirportName> bravo airspace You can say: Beech Five One Alpha is <AirportDistance> <BearingFromAirport> at Six Thousand Four Hundred feet request permission to enter <AirportName> bravo airspace ~Beech Five One Alpha inbound at Six Thousand Two Hundred feet request Visual Straight in to runway One Three Right ~Beech Five One Alpha inbound at Two Thousand Five Hundred feet request ILS Approach to runway One Three Right ~Beech Five One Alpha request taxi to General Aviation Ramp Beech Five One Alpha Request Taxi to General Aviation Ramp; State Change to: TaxiIn Beech Five One Alpha Taxi to General Aviation Parking Via Taxiways Alpha, Hotel, Bravo, Charlie, Siera, ~ Taxi to General Aviation Parking Via Taxiways Alpha, Hotel, Bravo, Charlie, Siera, Beech Five One Alpha
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Just completed my first two VFR flights with P2ATC. I had a couple issues and would love to see a tutorial or write up on how flight following is implemented with P2ATC. I created and filed a VFR flight plan between two class C airports. The request with Clearance goes as expected. When cleared for takeoff with Tower I would expect to be given a departure heading or some sort of "fly direct" instructions but didn't receive any. Handoff to enroute control happened as expected. When approaching my destination under flight following I expected to be told to contact the local tower but on both flights ATC was silent and I overflew my destination. I would imagine that realistic VFR implementation is going to be even more complex than IFR with all the airspace differences but would love to get a better sense for how a typical VFR flight following handoffs should happen.
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Hey Dave, I filed KLAX GMN4 GMN BSR BSR2 KSFO, using the suggested SID/STARs for that route. I believe there is an error with some of the LAX departure data. The flight planner bypasses the GMN4 departure and takes me straight to BSR. This seems to be an issue with several other SIDs out of LAX. http://imgur.com/CvOAXl6 Tim
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Yes, my settings were the same as the previous flight I reported. Vectors to final was checked.
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Hey Dave, Flying from PHLI to PHOG I was descended via the CAMPS3 STAR and told to expect the ILS 2. I flew the ILS all the way down to the runway but was never cleared to the approach or handed off to tower. My flight plan: http://imgur.com/7VPitld Here is the transcript: Simulator Connected Recognition Engine Installed Grammars Loaded NextWpt: To Alt-500 ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready to copy IFR Clearance Delta Seven Niner Six Ready to Copy IFR Clearance; State Change to: FlightPlanDelivered Delta Seven Niner Six is cleared to Papa Hotel Oscar Gulf, fly the LIH5 departure , with the BOOKE transition , then as filed. Maintain , Eight Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances five minutes after departure Squawk Four Zero Four One ~Delta Seven Niner Six is cleared to Papa Hotel Oscar Gulf, fly the LIH5 departure , with the BOOKE transition , then as filed. Maintain , Eight Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances five minutes after departure Squawk Four Zero Four One NextWpt: To Alt-500 Delta Seven Niner Six is Cleared to Papa Hotel Oscar Gulf fly the LIH5 departure with the BOOKE transition then as filed Maintain Eight Thousand Feet Expect higher clearances five minutes after departure Squawk Four Zero Four One; Delta Seven Niner Six Readback Correct. Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two Let us know when you're ready to taxi. ~ Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two Delta Seven Niner Six Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready for pushback and engine start Delta Seven Niner Six Ready for Pushback and Engine Start; Delta Seven Niner Six Pushback and engine start approved ~ Pushback and engine start approved Delta Seven Niner Six ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready to taxi Delta Seven Niner Six Ready to Taxi; State Change to: TaxiOut Delta Seven Niner Six Taxi to Runway Three Five Via Taxiways Juliet, Alpha, Delta, Bravo, Hold Short Runway Zero Three, and Runway Three Five ~ Taxi to Runway Three Five Via Taxiways Juliet, Alpha, Delta, Bravo, Hold Short Runway Zero Three, and Runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six Taxi to Runway Three Five via Taxiways Juliet Alpha Delta Bravo Hold Short Runway Zero Three and Runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six; Taxi to Runway Three Five via Taxiways Juliet Alpha Delta Bravo Hold Short Runway Zero Three and Runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six Clear to cross runway Zero Three ~Crossing Runway Zero Three Delta Seven Niner Six crossing Runway Zero Three Delta Seven Niner Six; State Change to: AtDepartureRunway Delta Seven Niner Six Contact Tower on One One Eight Point Niner, have a good flight ~Tower on One One Eight Point Niner Delta Seven Niner Six Tower on One One Eight Point Niner Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready for departure runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six Ready for Departure Runway Three Five; State Change to: TakeoffIFR Delta Seven Niner Six Whinds are Zero Five Zero at One Seven knots Cleared for takeoff, Runway Three Five ~Cleared for takeoff, Runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six Cleared for Takeoff Runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six; NextWpt: LIHUE NextWpt: BOOKE State Change to: DepartureIFR Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain , One Three Thousand feet Contact Center on One Two Six Point Five, have a good morning ~Center on One Two Six Point Five, have a good morning Delta Seven Niner Six Center on One Two Six Point Five have a good morning Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six passing Six Thousand Three Hundred feet for One Three Thousand feet Delta Seven Niner Six Passing Six Thousand Three Hundred Feet For One Three Thousand Feet; State Change to: EnRouteIFR Delta Seven Niner Six good morning . Radar Contact. You are off course. Turn Right Heading One Three Five to return to course. ~ Turn Right Heading One Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six Delta Seven Niner Six You are off course. Turn Right Heading One Three Five to return to course. ~ Turn Right Heading One Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six Turn Right Heading One Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six You are off course. Turn Right Heading One Three Five to return to course. ~ Turn Right Heading One Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six Turn Right Heading One Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six Resume navigation Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain Flight Level One Niner Zero ~ Climb and Maintain Flight Level One Niner Zero Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain Flight Level One Niner Zero Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Three Zero ~ Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Three Zero Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Three Zero Delta Seven Niner Six; NextWpt: TOD Delta Seven Niner Six Contact MAUI APP/DEP APPROACH on One One Niner Point Five, have a good morning ~Approach on One One Niner Point Five Delta Seven Niner Six ~Delta Seven Niner Six with you at Flight Level Two Three Zero Delta Seven Niner Six With you at Flight Level Two Three Zero; Delta Seven Niner Six good morning . Radar Contact. Expect the CAMPS3 arrival with the LNY transition for the ILS approach to runway Zero Two at KAHULUI. After LNY Cleared to KEIKI to join the arrival. Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two ~Expect the CAMPS3 arrival with the LNY transition for the ILS approach to runway Zero Two at KAHULUI. After LNY Cleared to KEIKI Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two Delta Seven Niner Six State Change to: TODDescent Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain , One Seven Thousand feet ~ Descend and Maintain One Seven Thousand feet Delta Seven Niner Six NextWpt: LANAI Descend and Maintain One Seven Thousand Feet Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain , One One Thousand feet ~ Descend and Maintain One One Thousand feet Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain One One Thousand Feet Delta Seven Niner Six; State Change to: IFRDescent Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain , Four Thousand , Five Hundred feet ~ Descend and Maintain Four Thousand Five Hundred feet Delta Seven Niner Six State Change to: STARDescent Delta Seven Niner Six Descend via the CAMPS3 arrival. with the LNY transition Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two ~Descend via the CAMPS3 arrival. with the LNY transition Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two Delta Seven Niner Six NextWpt: KEIKI Descend via the CAMPS3 arrival with the LNY transition Altimeter is Two Niner Niner Two Delta Seven Niner Six; NextWpt: CAMPS NextWpt: TEBBS NextWpt: RW02
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Yes, I'm running V200.15. Approach Radius is set to 35 miles.
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Hi Dave, First off, amazing job with Pilot2ATC so far. I've tried just about every third party ATC options out there, and this is definitely shaping up to be the best. I've been having an issue with approaches into airports without any STARs available. For instance, I file PHOG-BEACH4-LNY-PHLI. As I depart LNY, I would expect to fly direct PHLI unless ATC clear me to an approach or start giving me vectors. However, in this case ATC assumes that I will fly the ILS 35 with NAPUA transition from LNY. If I fly direct to PHLI, I am told that I am off course and given a heading to fly (towards NAPUA) and then told to resume own navigation. At this point I haven't been told what approach to expect and don't know where to fly. It is not until I have flown past NAPUA and MORKE and am on the approach course that I am cleared to the ILS approach. ATC assigns SIDS/STAR is checked. ATC assigns approaches is checked. ATC gives vectors to IF is checked. Here is my transcript (Note- this was the second time I flew this route and I assumed ATC would expect me to fly the ILS 35 with the NAPUA transition, even though I hadn't been cleared to that approach.) Simulator Connected Recognition Engine Installed Grammars Loaded NextWpt: To Alt-1400 ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready to copy IFR Clearance Delta Seven Niner Six Ready to Copy IFR Clearance; State Change to: FlightPlanDelivered Delta Seven Niner Six is cleared to Papa Hotel Lima India, fly the BEACH4 departure , with the LNY transition , then as filed. Maintain , Eight Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances five minutes after departure Departure on One One Niner Point Five Squawk Four One Five Three ~Delta Seven Niner Six is cleared to Papa Hotel Lima India, fly the BEACH4 departure , with the LNY transition , then as filed. Maintain , Eight Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances five minutes after departure Departure on One One Niner Point Five Squawk Four One Five Three NextWpt: To Alt-1400 Delta Seven Niner Six is Cleared to Papa Hotel Lima India fly the BEACH4 departure with the LNY transition then as filed Maintain Eight Thousand Feet Expect higher clearances five minutes after departure Departure on One One Niner Point Five Squawk Four One Five Three; Delta Seven Niner Six Readback Correct. Altimeter is Three Zero Zero Six Contact Ground on One Two One Point Niner when ready for pushback have a good one ~ Altimeter is Three Zero Zero Six Ground on One Two One Point Niner Delta Seven Niner Six Altimeter is Three Zero Zero Six Ground on One Two One Point Niner Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready for pushback and engine start Delta Seven Niner Six Ready for Pushback and Engine Start; Delta Seven Niner Six Pushback and engine start approved ~ Pushback and engine start approved Delta Seven Niner Six Pushback and Engine Start Approved Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six request taxi to Zero Two ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready to taxi Delta Seven Niner Six Ready to Taxi; State Change to: TaxiOut Delta Seven Niner Six Taxi to Runway Zero Two Via Taxiways Alpha, Charlie, Hold Short Runway Zero Two ~ Taxi to Runway Zero Two Via Taxiways Alpha, Charlie, Hold Short Runway Zero Two Delta Seven Niner Six State Change to: AtDepartureRunway Delta Seven Niner Six Contact Tower on One One Eight Point Seven, enjoy your afternoon ~Tower on One One Eight Point Seven Delta Seven Niner Six Tower on One One Eight Point Seven Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six ready for departure runway Zero Two Delta Seven Niner Six Ready for Departure Runway Zero Two; State Change to: TakeoffIFR Delta Seven Niner Six Whinds are Zero Five Zero at One One knots Cleared for takeoff, Runway Zero Two ~Cleared for takeoff, Runway Zero Two Delta Seven Niner Six Cleared for Takeoff Runway Zero Two Delta Seven Niner Six; NextWpt: BEACH Delta Seven Niner Six Slow to 250 knots or less. ~Wilco Delta Seven Niner Six Wilco Delta Seven Niner Six; State Change to: DepartureIFR Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain , One Four Thousand feet Contact Departure on One One Niner Point Five, have a good one ~Departure on One One Niner Point Five, have a good afternoon Delta Seven Niner Six Departure on One One Niner Point Five have a good afternoon Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six passing Six Thousand One Hundred feet for One Four Thousand feet Delta Seven Niner Six Passing Six Thousand One Hundred Feet For One Four Thousand Feet; Delta Seven Niner Six good afternoon . Radar Contact. Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Zero Zero ~ Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Zero Zero Delta Seven Niner Six NextWpt: LANAI Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Zero Zero Delta Seven Niner Six; State Change to: EnRouteIFR Delta Seven Niner Six Contact HONOLULU CENTER on One One Niner Point Three, enjoy your afternoon ~Center on One One Niner Point Three take care Delta Seven Niner Six Center on One One Niner Point Three take care Delta Seven Niner Six; ~Delta Seven Niner Six passing One Five Thousand Two Hundred feet for Flight Level Two Zero Zero Delta Seven Niner Six Passing One Five Thousand Two Hundred Feet For Flight Level Two Zero Zero; Delta Seven Niner Six good afternoon . Radar Contact. Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Four Zero ~ Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Four Zero Delta Seven Niner Six Climb and Maintain Flight Level Two Four Zero Delta Seven Niner Six; NextWpt: TOD NextWpt: TOD State Change to: TODDescent Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain Flight Level One Niner Zero ~ Descend and Maintain Flight Level One Niner Zero Delta Seven Niner Six NextWpt: NAPUA Descend and Maintain Flight Level One Niner Zero Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain , One Four Thousand feet ~ Descend and Maintain One Four Thousand feet Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain One Four Thousand Feet Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain , Niner Thousand feet ~ Descend and Maintain Niner Thousand feet Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain Niner Thousand Feet Delta Seven Niner Six; State Change to: IFRDescent Delta Seven Niner Six Slow to 250 knots or less. ~Wilco Delta Seven Niner Six Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain , Three Thousand feet ~ Descend and Maintain Three Thousand feet Delta Seven Niner Six Delta Seven Niner Six Slow to 250 knots or less. ~Wilco Delta Seven Niner Six Wilco Delta Seven Niner Six; Delta Seven Niner Six Slow to 250 knots or less. ~Wilco Delta Seven Niner Six NextWpt: MORKE NextWpt: AKULE Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain , One Thousand , Niner Hundred feet ~ Descend and Maintain One Thousand Niner Hundred feet Delta Seven Niner Six Descend and Maintain One Thousand Niner Hundred Feet Delta Seven Niner Six; State Change to: ClearedForApproach Delta Seven Niner Six Cleared for ILS approach to Runway Three Five with the NAPUA transition at LIHUE Contact Tower on One One Eight Point Niner, have a good afternoon ~Cleared ILS approach to Runway Three Five with the NAPUA transition Tower on One One Eight Point Niner, goodday Delta Seven Niner Six ~Delta Seven Niner Six established on final for ILS runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six established on Final for ILS Runway Three Five; State Change to: ClearedToLand Delta Seven Niner Six Slow to approach speed Whinds are Zero Six Zero at One Seven knots Cleared to Land Runway Three Five ~Cleared to land runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six NextWpt: RW35 Cleared to Land Runway Three Five Delta Seven Niner Six; State Change to: LandingRoll Delta Seven Niner Six exit runway when able. ~Clear of Active Delta Seven Niner Six
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I'm also unable to register my copy of RC4. I had to do a clean install of my OS and sent an email to the automated service several days ago, as well as an email to JD two days ago. Would appreciate some help. Thanks in advance.