Allright people, one of the reasons many will stick to fsx and prepar3d is the nice improvements being made, orbx sceneries and all that, and it is true that all of that enchance fsx, and if flying IFR you don't really need much more things, vatsim is there for those who want nice atc. But, what about VFR???ORBX makes amazing sceneries indeed, but all based on what the fsx platform can provide. We are in 2012 now, and as John from orbx said they would love to get their hands on an engine like that of the Battlefield series e.t.c, a modern graphics engine that should bring scenery design to very high standards. Of course they can't due to the cost, and the hope for a better graphic's engine was with Flight (if it has a better engine). So, now that Flight is out of the picture, we won't get a more modern engine on that deparment. That means that i'll be flying the piper cub at 60 knots over a scenery that has the roads that fsx had, and many of these elements. And i say again, orbx sceneries are awsome in many aspects, but they cannot elevate scenery design at the level we and they would like to.When i though of Flight, or other future flight sims i always thought of better graphics. Because some of us like to fly vfr at low alts, and we want as much realistic scenery as we can get. Personally i am now waiting for orbx to create sceneries for Europe and other places, even if it is for prepar3d, which in the lack something else i am willing to get at some point through the monthly payment plan, and to see what's next.So keep in mind, that although we now have very nice and realistic planes that can even be used for flight training, we also want graphics.