FlyingTib

Agree B)

Lol i which it was so easy..... I tested all settings and combinations posted here and i guess everywhere else. And i systematicly tested much more other combinations.. I can tell you NI definitely does not the same in dx10 with my gtx260.....it does nothing at all... Thats why im searching for somebody using a gtx260 too who got NI working with sgfsaa/ssaa... in dx10. Didnt find anybody up to date. Somebody using another graphiccard is useless for me because you cant say what works with yours has to work with all others too. Tib

Interesting to hear, that even with a gtx580 and gtx680 the problem exists. Just to clarify, the problem here is, that Nvidia Inspector settings doesn't have an effect at all in DX10 while in DX9 it does.... (And because it doesn't, there is no way to eliminate the flickering/shimmering trees/virtual cockpit/.... and others as we can in DX9 where NI is doing what it should. Its not a question of GPU-/CPU-Power.) Tib

BufferPools: Tested those too. ON/OFF, different (lower and higher) values and in combination with different RejectThreshold values. Also tested the recommendation from "Bojote". Didn't help with this special problem. Postprocess: Interestingly this had a an effect. Minor and blurry, as you stated, and not related to my flashing problem, but noticeable. I know its a little bit like riding e dead horse with this card, and i surely will buy a better one not so fare in the future. And i still would have done before, if dx9 wouldn't work nicely as it does.... (Using MS-Flightsimulator from the beginning on C64 and PC not only was simulating, it was "tweaking" too because PC-power was not strong enough ever.... guess i have spend more time "tweaking" than flying....). But thks for your reply, i'll take your suggestion for a new card to my "list of arguments" .... the day will come ) Tib

Thks for reply. Mips: I tested all textures with the tool linked in the dx10 howto. No Problems found. The flashing occures in all sceneries, original and addon. No difference. SGSSAA: That's what i tested in all variants an all combinations with/out different FSAA-settings... No reaction at all in dx10-mode (dx9 works flawless with NI-settings). 560Ti: Guess a new card could be the solution in this case. Especially because it's stated, that one needs a powerful one to avoid stutters and low fps using SGSSAA. In some posting in the 3-d center forum there was the hint, that pre-Kepler cards wouldn't support the enhancement of ingame fsaa with NI.... (not official though). System specs: 3570K@4,2 - 8GB - W7/64uptodate - GTX260 - FW310.90 - NI1.9.6.9 NI-settings: I don't post any NI-settings, because i had more than 50 different combinations of FSAA,SGSAA,enhanced/forced,MSAA/SSAA,compatibility-bits....... (Including all combinations posted by anybody else here before) FSX-settings: Didn't post them (i didn't want to waste your time by examining my settings), because i hope someone else is using an gtx260 and knows..... 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First at all, Hi and many thanks for that very good dx10 tutorials! Didnt think there would be a way to use dx10 after all this years of tweaking, but i tried all your tips and have to say very very nice and smooth goin in fsx. Would be my favourit but... seems fsaa enhancement with NI doesnt work at all with (my?) Nvidia gtx260 card in dx10. In dx9 it does what it should. Tested nearly all combinations of FSAA, SGSAA, enhance/override, Profiles, ingame fssaa on/off etc. No reaction with dx10 in fsx at all! Only the built in fsaa of fsx is working which isnt that bad, but the shimmering of the trees and in the cockpit is terrible and makes it useless for me. Too sad , the dx10 experience (smooth action, cockpit shadows, water effects..) are very nice. Can you confirm this incompatibility with gtx260 or (better) is someone out there who knows the "trick"? Thanks anyway.