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1 hour ago, Evros said:

Glad to see that it worked out well for you. Are able to run without blurries when not locking frames internally?

And disabling cores 0 and 1 is a good measure when you have 8 cores or more. Applications typically gravitate towards those, so it's best that P3D doesn't have to compete there for resources. My personal experience also shows that core 0 is often weaker on CPU's that run on 300 series chipsets.

I do not have blurries when locking with Nvidia Inspector. I do have a minor stutter issue that I'm trying to work through but it's still so much better than it was.

Update: I opened Process Lasso and forced P3D to run on cores 3-8 (2-7 logically). This substantially improved my performance. I also forced ActiveSky and REX to operate on cores 1-2 (0-1 logically) and it has made a world of a difference. I tried using LM's internal frame limiter to 30 but noticed I got about 10FPS worse than when I used NVI set to 30.5 and set to 1/2 refresh rate. I now can run p3d at 30 frames very easily and messing with my settings has had no effect on frames. This was a really interesting process and eye-opening. If you remember one thing just know that what works for others MAY NOT work for you. Tweaking is trial and error. I notice that P3d still loads about 60-70% of core 2 but my performance has dramatically improved flying into heavy scenery's with PMDG aircraft. Hopefully LM can optimize P3D to work better across all cores in the future. Thank you all again for your help. I hope that this can help someone else one day

13 minutes ago, TurboKen said:

You could double your FPS by reducing the shadows quality and draw distance and also turn off vegetation and also building shadows that will drop FPS at an airport even with your card. 

Thanks for the suggestion Ken. This did not really have much effect. I had already turned the shadow distance down and that did have an effect. Looking at my resource monitor my core 0 is saturated while the others are ~40% and below. I do have an affinity mask of 511 in my cfg from other tuning. Could this be robbing me of frames? 

7 hours ago, Evros said:

Just to clarify, are these observations takes with aircraft on ground and not moving? If so, then there is no need for system to go all out and work hard. There just isn't much work do be done. Also, you must look at your CPU utilization as per core basis. I am willing to bet that one core is pretty much pegged, while others are just along for the ride. That is completely normal. When airborne, then Westsim Innsbruck has some kinks, at least on my system. Depending on approach vector, some very localized areas could have a significant frame rate drop. It could also be only for me and be affected by other, adjacent sceneries.

Now, if you are rather sure that your sim's performance is really below the bar, then I would suggest you delete the contents of both AppData folders and ProgramData folder. P3D will generate new necessary files, but there are some essential files that you should back up and restore so that addons in your sim would operate correctly afterwards.

 

%APPDATA%\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4

From this folder, you need to back up add-ons.cfg, DLL.xml and EXE.xml. After that, delete all of the contents of this folder. For good measure, I would move everything out of this folder (copy-paste) so you could keep it's contents in case something goes wrong or you need to restore more files afterwards.

%PROGRAMDATA%\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4

From this folder, you need to back same three files. Well not the same, but they are named same. Contents are different. Same regime as before - wipe all contents after you are done backing up.

%LOCALAPPDATA%\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4

Delete everything in this folder. No need to back up anything.

 

Once this is done, run P3D and it will recreate its required file structure. I would also run a scenario one just for a good measure. Once you have exited from sim, restore those three files in both AppData and ProgramData folders. If you are still on FTX Central, then you need to run it once for it to do it's things and insert itself in to needed files. Some other scenery developers might require same approach, depends on what you have. After all that is done, I recommend you follow @SteveW tips on establishing baseline performance readings and go from there.

I also recommend you create a graphics profile and assignment profile before you start. This will make it a lot easier to restore settings afterwards.

 

Hope this will be of any help to you.

Steve and Evros, thank you both so much for your recommendations. I did this test and it was amazing to see how much addons truly effect even high spec rigs. I can easily get 50-60 FPS flying around LOWI with basically max settings but as soon as I add in the NGXu it drops substantially to around 30 FPS. 30 consistently is perfectly fine especially when it can be locked. Cleaning up the folders that you guys asked me to definitely helped and I scaled back a few settings that don't really make much difference. It is a much smoother experience now!

1 hour ago, Evros said:

Actually, it is. Disable the limier and see FPS go above 30. When internal limiter is applied then 33% of CPU time goes to terrain loading. This is necessary when you go high and fast, so's to avoid blurries. But when you are lower and slower, then you can have another graphic profile that you can switch to so it wouldn't have limiter enabled. This will give you those precious frames around terminal area.

Are you experiencing low performance on other places as well. Did you previously had better performance at Innsbruck, or is it a new airport for you and you are only seeing this kind of behavior over there?

I have previously had better performance at Innsbruck, or at least it really appeared that way. I tried LSZH (Aerosoft Zurich) and got around 30 frames on unlimited frame setting. This is good but when looking at my task manager my cpu is at 35% and GPU is around 25%. I kept inching sliders to the right and the frames stayed basically steady but CPU usage didn't budge. Something isn't adding up. 

33 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Road & boat traffic?  Weather (number of layers, conditions)?

No road or boat traffic. Usually for weather I'm using ActiveSky weather engine with REX cloud textures. Have used once during the tests and no noteworthy impact on performance.

Running a test with FsLabs A320 at ORBX LOWI I am running 33-35% CPU and 37-40% GPU with internal FPS limited to 30 in P3D. However, I am running between 23-27 FPS so the limiter isn't really even doing anything. Something is definitely bottlenecking my P3D and I cannot figure out what for the life of me. I will say that AURA Synce on my MOBO was using 15-20% of my CPU resources!!!! I changed a few settings and now its .5%. Note I am running AIG Ai traffic at 30% but turning it off didn't really do much for me.

I will say I am running P3D on an older HDD, not my newer M.2 PCIe SSD. Could this contribute to low frames? I installed the PCIe SSD after P3D was installed and did not want to go through the process of reinstalling. Is it time I do that?

5 minutes ago, micstatic said:

I would reduce the shadows and cloud draw distance.  

I shouldn't have to though. People who have lower end rigs are running higher settings and seeing better FPS than I am. The whole reason I want to fix this is because I was reading through threads on here where people are running P3D's photoreal scenery and running it very well with lower end systems. I'm trying to figure out my bottleneck

19 hours ago, w6kd said:

All of those image links require logging into a Flickr account.

My apologies, I'm still a little green on this forum. Here's another attempt:

6 hours ago, flightskyc said:

Your specs are great, way better than mine and I probably get the same fps.

What are your P3D settings?

I did a few minor tweaks this morning and my fps was slightly better between 25-30 but I still feel as though something is causing a bottleneck. Here are my current settings for P3D:

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Finally figured this issue out after purchasing P3D V4. The same issue was happening so I did a windows repair and it found a corrupt file. The repair fixed it and now both sims work. Now all I have to do is wait for all my add-ons to be compatible with P3D V4

Repair did not work. I'm in the middle of doing a clean uninstall/reinstall. Hopefully this fixes it. Thanks to all of you for your help

I'm attempting to do a repair right now as I have run out of options. Will report back. Weird issue....

1 hour ago, Jim Young said:

When FSX starts up, it loads everything in the dll.xml.  Did you rename the dll.xml (if you have one as it is only installed with some payware items, including FSUIPC).  You should also try renaming the scenery.cfg and let it rebuild to the default.  If the freeze continues, you can bring the old scenery.cfg back as it is not the fault.  Same with the dll.xml. 

I tried both of these with the same results. I'm not sure what is going on with the sim but it is quite frustrating

Yes I tried installing an older driver for the graphics card. Still freezing

5 hours ago, vortex681 said:

Could be your video card. How old is it? What are your system specifications and video resolution? Take a look here: 

 

Resolution is 1920x1080

My specs are:

GTX 960

i5 6600K OC to 4.7 Ghz

8GB DDR4 RAM

MSI Z170A Gaming M3

I looked at the event viewer in windows and there aren't any errors in there. The only thing related to FSX is that it attempted to disable the Windows Task Manager. Not sure if that is normal or not.

Hi all,

The past two days I've been dealing with an especially frustrating issue. Whenever my game loads, it has been loading in on the settings page in FSX. I go to select free flight and the Trike Ultralight does about half a turn and then suddenly my entire computer locks up. I can still click around and if I click the "esc" on FSX I can hear the click it is supposed to make. So it seems like its a video problem. I've deleted the logbook.bin, the fsx.cfg, updated the video driver and audio driver, and played around with my Nvidia Inspector settings (set them back to default). I've even somehow gotten FSX to start on the Free Flight page again like it is supposed but the exact same thing happens. Now, when I just have FSX and say, Spotify, opened, I can see the Ultralight rotating fine in the backround. The issue only happens when I select the simulator. I would do a repair but to be honest, I do not want to as my computer no longer has an optical drive so I would have to open up the case and wire an external optical drive in. This is completely frustrating and I am at a loss as to what to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.