Thanks very much for that Yeah I was meaning FTX global. If I get the FTX global, is it best to download those other products as well, like straight away to get the right effects?? Global Vector and OpenLC?? Or will I see a dramatic enough result from FTX Global before downloading the other ones. For areas like Asia Middle east and India are there any Orbix style packages that fix default airport bugs such as lack of heavy gates at major airports and airports that weren't build before FSX came out