Antioch

These sticks are currently unavailable in the UK and most of the retailers in Europe. I will give it some consideration should the TM prove to be unconfigurable. I shall probably start a new thread if I have further problems as this thread is marked solved.

Hi Simon Sorru for very late reply. Well it is said you pay for quality - bit beyond my reach though. Hi David Sorry for such a late response - I am still not getting any email notifications - must have the wrong boxes ticked. One of my daughters also bought me the TM Hotas X for Xmas. At the moment I am having problems with the throttle calibration - not found anything yet in these forums about this not too uncommon problem. I was wondering if you had the same??? I shall have another try later today. I am running FS2002 at the moment and want to get used to the new computer[built Nov 2016] before I install the Steam version of FSX.

Sorry for not replying earlier - I thought this thread had died - and I dont seem to get notifications when somebody does reply. Thanks for the info - that model is in my list of possibles.

Alas, no longer - well that is my reading of the new system - as from Dec for both WIN7 & WIN8.1. As has been mine since XP. It appears that the priority/important security stuff with be on the usual Black Tuesdays - other stuff like .net/drivers/system enhancements/office, could be any time - it remains to be seen if one has the choice to pick and choose these. Current Position Updating as from Oct & Nov has been done via roll-ups and one has been able to pick/choose which updates one wants/needs. From Dec it would appear that users will have less or no choice as to what gets downloaded and installed on each monthly Black Tuesday. I have some interesting links on this subject - win7 & win8.1 are now going to be treated the same as WIN10 users. In other words we users of WIN7 are dumb and stupid and not capable of deciding what updates we want or need and that MS knows best. The pathetic reason, given by MS for doing this is beyond reasonable comprehension. I expect most users here will know or have already done the roll-ups for Oct and Nov, perhaps without knowing. My personal choice is 'never check for updates'. Perhaps a 'sticky' is too late??? If only FS etc would run on a free OS. Antioch

Hi to all There is no forum for 2002 but I have a new computer running WIN7. For the moment, I am just running this FS before trying the Steam FSX. Every time I create a flight and select airport then select parking, the programme starts on active runway. Never had this problem when running 2002 in XP. I must be missing something or not getting the settings right. Rgds Antioch

Hi to All I am pleased to report that all problems have been resolved - no need for clean install. I have a DVI to DVI cable - now have Nvidia Control Panel - drivers sorted - missing files were not missing, just hidden - can now use a screensaver [poor choice though]. A family member is treating me to a new joystick - could be sufficient funding for a good display as well. FS2002 runs well even on restricted frame rate of 30 - yet to try with add-ons. I think I can mark this thread as 'solved' - I will come back after Xmas to discuss displays - in the correct forum. Thanks to everybody Antioch

Thanks vortex I have the link saved in bookmarks. I had a phone call from the builders - they are considering the situation and deciding what may be the best action. I will update as soon as I know.

Yes, I will let you know Good to hear - can l get it via this site though I do wonder where the versions of Steam come from, that are on offer in Amazon and the like.

Hi to all I spent most of the morning onto the builder but we were unable to connect via remote control. Having looked through the folders for WIN 7 it would appear that at least two folders and their contents are missing - not my fault - and rather than the hassle of boxing the system and sending it back I have initially agreed to do a clean install as I have an OEM disc which they supply. I will do this next weekend when I have the time. Thank you vortex, martin and glynn for all your help - sorry to have wasted your time and the trouble. I shall save to disc all my personal files etc then reinstall. Before doing this, I shall also get the required DVI-D cable to connect GPU with the display[which has VGA & DVI-D inputs] - DVI-D to DVI-D and an external HDD with the My Passport. I have not tried FS9 - damaged disc - and FSX First addition is with another - but I was looking at the Steam Edition, which I believe is a full application. So I will be back sometime - soon I hope.

Hi Vortex - sorry another long one. Thanks for your continued help. I spent most of yesterday looking through the Nvidia forums - was prompted to do so by a very late reply from the games forum @ MS where it was suggested I may wish to choose AMD and not Nvidia - perhaps I should have. I can assure you it did not make pretty reading is some forums. I also went through all the folders titled Nvidia - could not believe how many times it was listed. In some it had DisplayDriver- on opening shows 375.70-WIN7 & WIN8. Not all Event Viewer logs had been cleared but so far I could not find anything relating to a driver being installed. Lots of warnings and errors though. The driver number 21.21.13.7254 came from Device Manager - yes I did the search in Nvidia for a driver according to my system but it did nothing but tell me re Java - you and I are both of the same mind re Java - I only use it for one piece of software but it remains disabled all the time. 375.70 is the latest of many updates for this driver- six in all since the GPU was launched a few months ago. I searched the forums for info and found this one was 'buggy' avoid if possible - the next two have 'adware' and 'pups' apparently - the fourth one, 372.90 dated 21 Sept 2016 is fairly reliable - no wonder the forums are upset. It did not help with login probs - password not recognised - no account recognised nor email address for any account and to top it all, two posters noted that my original post and replies suddenly disappeared. I found the same when I got logged in. This is normal for these forums. As for the Nvidia Control Panel, I have been looking for this ever since almost day one - 'right-click on the desktop, select NVIDIA Control Panel' - no such choice in the drop-down - this was another thing I searched for yesterday. So I have no Nvidia Control Panel. I found in one folder ControlPanelClient - there are three items here - nvcplui application, nvcpluir.dll & NvGpuUtilization application. When the first is opened I get a box saying NVIDIA Control Panel Aplication 8.1.900.0 has stopped working with the choice of 'check online', 'close programme' 'view problem details' - the problem event name is APPCRASH. In the other subfolders nothing of note. If I select from the drop-down,'personalization' there is a link to Control Panel - but not what I expected - more for use inside Windows applications - nothing indicating anything to do with Nvidia. The other choice is screen resolution, which is a section of Control Panel. So I am back in 'limbo' as to which way to go - could box it all up send it back for the builder to sort out. 375.70 or 372.90?????

Hi vortex I followed your instructions despite being assured I had the most up to date driver installed by the builder - 21.21.13.7254. I went to Nvidia site and searched - I ran their search to see which driver if any was needed and was informed that I did not have Java - strange because I have the lastest installed - having entered all my card details, I downloaded to the desktop ready to open - I then went back to Device Manager uninstalled the driver - went back to run the download but it could not find the device - so went to do a clean install in Device Managerdo clean install but the GPU had gone and the VGA was left. I have the GPU disc and when I tried to install the driver it informed there was no compatible device found. I am surprised I can see anything - there are no drivers installed for the VGA Video Controller? What did I do wrong? I am at a complete loss now.

The new computer arrived on Monday and had a few probs which seem to have been sorted with a couple of phone calls. Having set my displays etc and downloaded all my other software and docs, I loaded FS2002 with no problems at all, but without any extras - planes, scenery etc. On opening, I got a window headed 'Software 3D enabled' saying that Safe Mode has been enabled because your system is currently unable to use hardware acceleration........................................product support services does not support Safe Mode and for information, see 'Readme' from the Flight Sim link in windows Start Menu - I have a screenshot if it helps. There is no such link? - probable a very old informative. When I leave FS the desktop is a mess and still in safe mode appearance. At the moment I am connected to the Dell E207WFP via VGA which all worked OK on the replaced system. I have been told that I need a DVI-D cable to connect directly with the GPU. The Dell has a VGA and a DVI-D connections only. In device/ hardware manager I note that there is an entry for a Video Controller - VGA Compatible but it said no driver installed - there is no yellow triangle showing? I have done a dxdiag - this shows DirectX 11 in system info - on the Display window it is shown that DX features are not available? Sometimes I have opened a doc or screen print which has appeared grossly magnifiedand superimposed over the desktop - unable to remove it and have done a system restore to resolve. I am not sure what to do next? Antioch

Hi to All Hope you dont mind the way I have responded. I have been away for a few days so playing catch-up. I have already upgraded the HDD to 1Tb Sata III and gone over the top with a 550W PSU. No 500W. The brand of the HDD is Seagate - a WD 1 Tb increases the budget by £30 – other 1Tb are more. These have pushed me over my budget - the mistake I made was letting 'her indoors' know what my budget was! Martin - thanks for confirming the Ai Suite 3. Re the MB – yes it is a cheap one, but it was pointed out that my original choice, the Asus ATX Z170-P, has extras I would be unlikely to use/need and the saving would allow for a better graphics card within my budget. I have used four other computer builders [even Dell] and the one I am with is somewhat cheaper than the others. Even picking parts at their cheapest I can find for a self build, is only a few £s less. The rear case fan will be connected to the MB as well as the CPU fan. The front fan via a molex. Christopher - as you can see I have decided to increase the PSU. Vortex – Hi - as you can see the HDD has been increased. I could buy a cooler from elsewhere but I am happy with my current choice. I am aware of Scan and have bought parts from them for many years – great to deal with. Re choice of Windows – I could go into a long diatribe but this is not the place nor time – I would use a ‘free open’ OS if it supported FS. I am completely disillusioned and disgusted with the manner in which MS treat current users as ‘morons’, by telling us what we want rather than what we need. I don’t fancy the fact that I cannot choose the updates I want/need. Many thanks for your input. Ryan – Hi – No, I don’t expect or intend to do any OC on this computer. I will have very few add-ons as I am what I would call a ‘casual flying’. My thanks to everybody - I will be back after Xmas to resume discussions re a new monitor. Antioch

Yes a good fan but the builders did not have it - had the 212X which was on my shortlist. Thanks for the mention. Antioch

Hi again Martin I understand it is now called 'AI Suite II'. May have to come here later - have to wait and see if the builder configures any software and to which connection point they use. There you differ from others - I did a couple of those calculators - the best they came up with was about 340W. But I found it almost impossible to find the exact hardware listed. I will not be doing any OCing nor adding/upgraing hardware.The builder and posters in their forum recon 450W. Yes, it was pointed out re the PSU getting higher. May go for the 550W. Thanks for the help.

Many thanks for your reply. I certainly follow your drift – I am having a similar train of thought – didn’t fancy the problem of leakage [despite possibly being overstated] – if a fan on a non liquid cooler starts squeaking, just whack a lump of axle grease on it. :smile: However the noise in the link you posted were taken at a distance of 75cm – who sits that far away from the case sitting at their desk? Most noise tests are done in the 30-40cm. The case comes with two 120mm fans [3pin] – one at the front and one top back. I think a roof fan might get in the way of the CPU fan? But the MB has two fan connections – one for CPU and one for case fan. Not sure yet what the builder will do with the second fan. Would you consider the PSU sufficient? I don’t intend to add any hardware. The builders suggest 400 is enough? Antioch

Hi to all A most interesting forum. I wish I had come here earlier. I have been reading through recent threads of new builds and would like to have your feedback on the below. Although I have FS2002, 2004 and the standard 1st issue FSX, I only use it for flying small light aircraft. I also have a few add-ons, of UK landscape and airports – no additional planes. Re FSX I might take a closer look at the Steam version. The discussions re air cool against liquid cooling in particular. I am not building the computer myself and the options for cooling offered by the builder are not vast. For me, I am looking for the quietest as possible with some control over fan speed and temp, which I do not have at the moment. I take manufacturers noise figures with a pinch of salt and where possible I have looked for ‘bench tested’ equipment. Proposed build – CASE- Corsair Carbide 200R PSU-Intel i5 6600 MB- Asus H110M-R RAM- 16GB HyperX Fury GPU- Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 – at this time the Zotac single fan HDD- 500GB Sata-III 3.5 PSU- Corsair 450W VS Series COOLER- Corsair H80i V2[Artic MX4] [Noise rated 24-57]– with ‘Link’ control Air cooler choices are – Standard Intel; Dragonfly 3; Frostflow 100; CoolMaster Hyper 212X; Noctua NH-U14S[£20 cheaper than the h80i] [not certain how speed/noise control is maintained with this one] Noise rated 23-40db OS- WIN7 whilst still available until MS remove its availability to computer builders very shortly. My spend is at its limit of £900 [$1100] Having read through threads, for my system and use I am leaning towards the Noctua. Partitions – this service is offered free – it would be convenient to have all the FS stoftware on one partition, but how much? I do little office work these days – little email, no photography or design stuff. Perhaps 200GB for FS and any add-ons? My current HDD is 500GB of which 400GB is free. Partitions can be split in units of 10GB. Thank you - sorry re length of post Antioch

I am only using FS2002 at the moment so don't know if what you say applies as you mention FSX. I can confirm that going through the different views, inside and outside the plane, the virtual cockpit instrument panel is the correct shape etc but not the cockpit view. I have tried all the preset displays on offer within the MS display hardware settings and the one chosen has the best view and I cannot go higher than 60Hz. I could of course do so when I had a CRT monitor - even the resolution could be altered. As I have said, I am not too concerned with what I have, but what to get? The questions, to which I was hoping to get an answer, is "within the flight sim community, what is the favoured panel type"? "Do they favour colour/clarity over speed of movement/lag/ghosting etc"? Looking through many threads/posts I have not been able to find the answers. Is hijacking anothers thread permitted in these forums? Antioch

Hi Mark Yes I am sure the GPU is only 2D[Nvidia GeForce 210]. 60Hz is the highest I can get. Its a 10 year old unit but I have had it a shorter time. Is 3D important to have - I have never looked into it? The monitor is a Dell E207WFP – LCD – TFT. Native resolution 1680 x 1050 at 60 Hz. Well I have tried various display settings within FS and the best I have found is 1280X960X32. Virtual cockpit does give round dials but most are unreadable. My initial decision is what sort of panel would be best for my usage - mainly FS and a bit of office work. I am not into editing or printing photos and videos and or any sort of designing. Its a shame that more posters do not show their signatures - unlike gaming forums - but in their case its a form of one-upmanship I think. Is there perhaps a forum in which this matter is discussed - other than here? Antioch

Hi Jim Thanks for the help and info - gives food for thought. A 4:3 ration gives a symetrical picture - there are displays out there now with such a preset feature as I mentioned. I like to see round dials in cockpit view. On FS2002/2004, on my current display/GPU, I set the display hardware at 1280X960X32 - its the nearest I can get to a good looking symetrical display that is full screen - perfect pic I have narrow black bars down the screen side - as expected with the hardware I have. It is good to see you are basing your dislike on personal use? Yes expensive - has had lots of good reviews by users and my computer magazines. So will you be changing your current monitors soon? As to response times - my opinion, based on professional reviews, are that official specs regarding response times are useless - I came to that conclusion a few years ago. I have seen 5ms rated displays that have response times as high as 8ms to 15ms. So I tend to ignore manufacturer's 'sales-speak'. I treat such as I do a snake-oil company that peddles their software that makes your computer faster by cleaning ones registry - but thats another story and not for this thread. I have yet to find any monitor with a 1ms stated response that is better than 5ms in bench tests. In any case, at those numbers its not likely to be noticed by the human eye. 24 is my max - alas. I have at last found the disc on which I saved some research I did 2-3 years ago, on displays and their different types of panel. I shall have a look through it and see if it needs updating and I will certainly look at the 120hz range on offer - may be the higher ones. I know at that time avid 'gamers' favoured such panels but I am not sure 'simmers' are the same as 'gamers'? I am thinking that my requirement may be towatds TN panels - despite a reported slight loss of colour etc. But I have no need to decide until after Xmas - will know then what I have to spend and then choose. Thanks again Antioch

Hi Jonss Now there's a thought - would not fit over my deskthough - no room - the desktop and filing trays would cover a couple of inches of the screen- with limited space both will not go elsewhere.

Hi Vortex Thanks for the links but when I watched a video clip of one being taken apart I was rather put off. I will keep cleaning the FF2 before each use and watch out on eBay. Have not seen a new one for a year or so.

I am looking to replace my stick - it has a very sticky handle and one button no longer works. I quite fancy the Thrustmaster range up to a spend of £60[$80]. In particular the Hotas X which has an adjustable handle - I have a left-handed grandson. Rgds Antioch