SpinyNorman

That makes sense, I can try that if it comes up again. A flight this short is definitely the exception, as this is the first time I've run across this in several years of using P2A. Thanks!

Not 100% sure if this is a bug, or something I did wrong, but did a short flight this morning from KVES to KDAY. Both airports use Columbus approach/departure on 118.425. At KVES, I was handed off to departure on 118.42, then shortly after takeoff, it tried to hand me off to Columbus approach on 118.42, which started a loop. I tried switching away then back to, checking in again, etc, but nothing seemed to break the loop and start the approach clearance. In the end, I'll admit I ended up disconnecting and just routing myself in. Logs below: Program StartedPilot2ATC® (P2A) - version 2.7.0.0_x64_Beta7J2 11/11/2023 15:37:47 Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Version: 6.2.9200.0 Platform: Win32NT Memory: 68582387712 Trying to create DB_Dyno. DB_Dyno created successfully. Init 15% done. Trying to create DB_Base. DB_Base created successfully. Application frmP2AMain starting 11/11/2023 15:38:31 Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Loading Form Main form opened: Pilot2ATC® 2021 v. 2.7.0.0_x64_Beta7J2 Navigraph - AIRAC cycle: 2311 Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Joystick Device number 0 successfully activated. Loading Map Control LoadMapControl: panel 1 Creating ucMap1 SQLiteVersion: 3.8.11.1 | 2015-07-29 20:00:57 cf538e2783e468bbc25e7cb2a9ee64d3e0e80b2f | INTEROP_CODEC INTEROP_EXTENSION_FUNCTIONS INTEROP_VIRTUAL_TABLE NET_40 PRELOAD_NATIVE_LIBRARY THROW_ON_DISPOSED TRACE TRACE_PRELOAD TRACE_SHARED TRACE_WARNING USE_PREPARE_V2 WINDOWS ucMap1 Created ucMap DockFill set. Setting Map Mode Done Loading Map Control Loading FPL Control FPL Control Loaded Retrieving TAF from web successful at 11/11/2023 15:41:54 Retrieving weather from web successful at 11/11/2023 15:41:55 Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Loading Joystick Devices - 4 devices loaded. Joystick Device number 2 successfully activated. Joystick Device number 0 successfully activated. Joystick Device number 0 successfully activated. Joystick Device number 0 successfully activated. Pilot2ATC_2021.exe Information 0 SAPI does not implement phonetic alphabet selection. at System.Environment.GetStackTrace(Exception e, Boolean needFileInfo) at System.Environment.get_StackTrace() at System.Diagnostics.TraceEventCache.get_Callstack() at Microsoft.VisualBasic.Logging.FileLogTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String message) at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args) at System.Speech.Recognition.RecognizerBase.Initialize(SapiRecognizer recognizer, Boolean inproc) at System.Speech.Recognition.SpeechRecognitionEngine.get_RecoBase() at P2A2021.ATCListener.LoadPilotGrammar() at P2A2021.ATCListener.Init() at P2A2021.frmP2AMain.c2124c4ff01169d49362f23ceb404afd0() at P2A2021.frmP2AMain.c6da96e2c3dc97ecb14521624b5c07984() at P2A2021.frmP2AMain.c6f50794713ca1994f16f21230b6819d6(Object cb25b07786a6e786dea76cf87175f59f0, EventArgs cb4d4bf05d278f00a41fc902f6c5d26a2) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessageW(MSG& msg) at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessageW(MSG& msg) at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ComponentManager.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponentManager.FPushMessageLoop(IntPtr dwComponentID, Int32 reason, Int32 pvLoopData) at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoopInner(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context) at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoop(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context) at A.cbfc2d4b1897f721a06d50ef1eb1d7e85.c39e4a2c7012e9e0ba9055469c605637a() "" 8120 1 45687773636 No controller assigned 15:44:53 ControllerFreqChanged: No Controller on the selected frequency: 0 15:44:53 Culture: en-US Pilot Voice:Microsoft David Desktop Sim Connected: MSFS :11/11/2023 15:44:53 ATCAssignsSIDs: False ATCAssignsSTARs: False ForceSTARAssignment: False ATCAssignsAPPRs: True ForcePilotRunwaySelection: True ForceDepRunway: True ForceArrRunway: True AutoLoadRecommendedProcedures: False UseRandomVoices: True No controller assigned 15:44:54 ControllerFreqChanged: No Controller on the selected frequency: 119.55 15:44:54 New Com1 Stby Freq: 134.7 Com1FreqChanged: 119.55. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found15:44:54 Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 134.7. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found15:44:54 No controller assigned 15:44:54 ControllerFreqChanged: No Controller on the selected frequency: 119.55 15:44:54 No controller assigned 15:44:54 ControllerFreqChanged: No Controller on the selected frequency: 119.55 15:44:54 New Com2 Stby Freq: 124.85 Com2StandbyFreqChanged: 0. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found15:44:54 AssignedRunway: RW09 - SIM Rate Changed: 1 Retrieving weather from web successful at 11/11/2023 15:44:55 No controller assigned 15:44:55 ControllerFreqChanged: No Controller on the selected frequency: 119.55 15:44:55 SimBrief FPln Importing: KVES DCT KDAY GPS FlightPlan Changed - 11/11/2023 15:45:02 NewGPSWpt: KDAY ForcePilotRunway Changed to: True GPS FlightPlan Changed - 11/11/2023 15:45:25 NewGPSWpt: TOD PT Retrieving weather from web successful at 11/11/2023 15:45:25 ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Started GPS FlightPlan Changed - 11/11/2023 15:45:26 NewGPSWpt: TOD PT ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Done Begin FPLFile 11/11/2023 15:45:27 FP.FileFLtPlan executed. ATCFltPlan set to Filed FPL ATC UserNamesAdded GPS FlightPlan Changed - 11/11/2023 15:45:30 NewGPSWpt: TOD PT ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Started GPS FlightPlan Changed - 11/11/2023 15:45:30 NewGPSWpt: TOD PT ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Done Filed Route: KVES KDAY Filed SID: - - - - Filed STAR: - - - - Filed APPR: Filed APPR Trans: Filed Cruise Alt: 7000 File Descent Rate: 800 End FPLFile 11/11/2023 15:45:30 Started Listening Stopped Listening No controller assigned 15:45:40 ControllerFreqChanged: No Controller on the selected frequency: 135.125 15:45:40 Com1FreqChanged: 135.125. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found15:45:40 New Com1 Stby Freq: 119.55 Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 119.55. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found15:45:40 Started Listening Recognized Speech: SPINY One Two Three Four Ready Copy 15:45:45 Stopped Listening AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:45:45 Started Listening Recognized Speech: Radio check SPINY One Two Three Four 15:45:53 Stopped Listening AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:45:53 No controller assigned 15:47:24 ControllerFreqChanged: 120.65. CtlrShrtName: India Ctr CtlrType: Center15:47:24 New Com1 Stby Freq: 135.125 Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 135.125. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found15:47:24 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:47:27 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:47:27 Started Listening UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:47:30 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:47:30 Recognized Speech: SPINY One Two Three Four Ready Copy 15:47:30 Stopped Listening HandleIFRClearanceRequest 15:47:30 AssignedRunway: RW27 - AssignedRunway: RW27 - SpokenAssignedAltitude: 5000 15:47:30 SpokenAssignedAltitude: 5000 15:47:30 State Changed to: FlightPlanDelivered 15:47 ControllerChanging: False : 11/11/2023 15:47:30 Trigger checks started: 11/11/2023 15:47:30 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY One Two Three Four is cleared to Kilo Delta Alpha Yankee as filed. Expect departure runway Two Seven. Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure. Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two. Squawk Six Zero Two Six. 11/11/2023 15:47:30 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:47:30 ATC Speak: SPINY One Two Three Four is cleared to Kilo Delta Alpha Yankee as filed. Expect departure runway Two Seven. Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure. Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two. Squawk Six Zero Two Six. 15:47:31 Sug Resp: ~SPINY One Two Three Four is cleared to Kilo Delta Alpha Yankee as filed. Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure. Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two. Squawk Six Zero Two Six. 15:47:31 ATCFlt.CheckNextWaypoint: A OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:47:51 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~SPINY One Two Three Four is cleared to Kilo Delta Alpha Yankee as filed. Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure. Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two. Squawk Six Zero Two Six. 11/11/2023 15:47:51 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:47:51 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:47:53 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:47:53 Started Listening Recognized Speech: SPINY One Two Three Four is cleared to Kilo Delta Alpha Yankee as filed 15:48:00 UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:48:07 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:48:07 Recognized Speech: Climb and Maintain Five Thousand Feet Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two Squawk Six Zero Two Six 15:48:07 Stopped Listening HandleIFRClearanceReadback 15:48:07 IFRReadbackSuccess 15:48:07 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Readback Correct. Contact Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two for IFR Release when number one for departure. 11/11/2023 15:48:08 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:48:08 ControllerChanging: True : 11/11/2023 15:48:08 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Readback Correct. Contact Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two for IFR Release when number one for departure. 15:48:08 Sug Resp: ~Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two for IFR Release. SPINY Twelve Thirty Four15:48:08 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:48:17 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Departure on One One Eight Point Four Two for IFR Release. SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 11/11/2023 15:48:17 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:48:17 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:48:17 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:48:17 Started Listening Speech Rejected: No Speech Recognized11/11/2023 15:48:22 Speech Rejected UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:48:24 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:48:24 Recognized Speech: Twelve Thirty Four 15:48:24 Stopped Listening AssignedController: 118.42. CtlrShrtName: KVES App_Dep CtlrType: App_Dep15:48:36 ControllerFreqChanged: 118.42. CtlrShrtName: KVES App_Dep CtlrType: App_Dep15:48:36 Com1FreqChanged: 118.425. CtlrShrtName: KVES App_Dep CtlrType: App_Dep15:48:36 New Com1 Stby Freq: 120.65 Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 120.65. CtlrShrtName: India Ctr CtlrType: Center15:48:36 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:49:11 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:49:11 Started Listening UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:49:16 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:49:16 Recognized Speech: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four holding short Runway Two Seven Ready for IFR Release 15:49:16 Stopped Listening HandleTakeoffRequest AssignedRunway: RW27 - AssignedRunway: RW27 - SpokenRandomSalutation 15:49:16 HandleIFRReleaseRequest 15:49:16 State Changed to: TakeoffIFR 15:49 SpokenAssignedAltitude: 5000 15:49:16 SpokenAssignedAltitude: 5000 15:49:16 ControllerChanging: False : 11/11/2023 15:49:16 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four COLUMBUS, Roger. goodday You are released for departure. Runway Two Seven After takeoff turn Left to heading One Four Five then proceed direct Charlie Foxtrot Bravo Delta Quebec Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Release for departure void at Twenty Fifty Six Zulu advise with alternate intentions no later than Twenty One Zero One Zulu Time now is Twenty Forty Nine Zulu 11/11/2023 15:49:16 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:49:16 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four COLUMBUS, Roger. goodday You are released for departure. Runway Two Seven After takeoff turn Left to heading One Four Five then proceed direct Charlie Foxtrot Bravo Delta Quebec Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Release for departure void at Twenty Fifty Six Zulu advise with alternate intentions no later than Twenty One Zero One Zulu Time now is Twenty Forty Nine Zulu15:49:16 Sug Resp: ~SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Released for departure Runway Two Seven After takeoff turn Left to heading One Four Five then direct Charlie Foxtrot Bravo Delta Quebec Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Release for departure void at Twenty Fifty Six Zulu15:49:16 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:49:41 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Released for departure Runway Two Seven After takeoff turn Left to heading One Four Five then direct Charlie Foxtrot Bravo Delta Quebec Climb and maintain Five Thousand feet . Release for departure void at Twenty Fifty Six Zulu 11/11/2023 15:49:41 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:49:41 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:49:42 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:49:42 Started Listening UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:49:52 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:49:52 Recognized Speech: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Released for Departure Runway Two Seven After Takeoff Turn Left Heading One Four Five then direct Charlie Foxtrot Bravo Delta Quebec climb and maintain Five Thousand Feet 15:49:52 Stopped Listening HandleIFRReleaseReadback 15:49:52 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Readback correct. Contact us when airborne. 11/11/2023 15:49:52 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:49:52 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Readback correct. Contact us when airborne. 15:49:53 Sug Resp: ~Wilco SPINY Twelve Thirty Four15:49:53 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:49:58 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Wilco SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 11/11/2023 15:49:58 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:49:58 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:49:59 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:49:59 Started Listening UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:50:01 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:50:01 Recognized Speech: Wilco SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 15:50:01 Stopped Listening Retrieving weather from web successful at 11/11/2023 15:50:26 rOnTowerRadiusReached 15:52:30 State Changed to: EnRouteIFR 15:52 rOnApproachRadiusReached 15:52:30 PrepareApproachForVectorsToIF:ILS - RW06L - I06L 15:52:31 FltPlan ActiveAPPR: ILS - RW06L - I06L - VectorSet - LeadTime: 48 Wpt: TOD PT SetNearestActiveWaypoint: TOD PT NewATCWpt: TOD PT rOnReachedNextFltPlanWaypoint: TOD PT; 15:52:33 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.96067 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.78577 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:33 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:33 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, enjoy your afternoon 11/11/2023 15:52:33 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:52:33 ControllerChanging: True : 11/11/2023 15:52:33 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, enjoy your afternoon 15:52:33 Sug Resp: ~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four15:52:33 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.96067 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.78577 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:33 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:34 ControllerChanging: False : 11/11/2023 15:52:34 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.96067 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.78577 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:34 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:34 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.96067 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.78577 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:34 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:34 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.82555 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.60064 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:35 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:35 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.7874 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.5625 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:36 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:36 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.74757 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.47267 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:37 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:37 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.70774 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.43283 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:38 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:38 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.66631 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.34141 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:39 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:39 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:52:40 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 11/11/2023 15:52:40 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:52:40 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.62283 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.24793 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:40 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:52:40 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:52:40 Started Listening SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:40 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.58084 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.15594 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:41 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:41 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.53612 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.11121 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:42 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:42 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.49269 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:17.01779 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:43 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:43 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.44789 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.97298 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:44 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:44 UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:52:44 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:52:44 Recognized Speech: Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY One Two Three Four 15:52:44 Stopped Listening HandleFrequencyReadback 15:52:44 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.40277 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.92787 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:45 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:45 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, have a good afternoon 11/11/2023 15:52:45 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:52:45 ControllerChanging: True : 11/11/2023 15:52:45 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, have a good afternoon 15:52:45 Sug Resp: ~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four15:52:45 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.35841 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.83351 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:46 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:46 ControllerChanging: False : 11/11/2023 15:52:46 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.31392 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.78901 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:47 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:47 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.26862 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.74372 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:48 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:48 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.22523 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.70033 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:49 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:49 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.17985 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.65494 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:50 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:50 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.14209 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.61719 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:51 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:51 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:52:51 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 11/11/2023 15:52:51 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:52:51 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:52:52 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:52:52 Started Listening ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.08873 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.56383 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:52 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:52 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:14.04408 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.51918 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:53 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:53 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.9987 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.4738 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:54 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:54 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.95446 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.42955 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:55 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:55 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.9093 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.3344 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:56 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:56 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.86428 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.28938 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:57 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:57 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.81921 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.2443 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:58 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:58 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.77345 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.14855 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:52:59 SpokenRandomSalutation 15:52:59 UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:53:00 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:53:00 Recognized Speech: Approach the SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Inbound for a Landing Two at Kilo Delta Alpha Yankee 15:53:00 Stopped Listening HandleApproachRequest 15:53:00 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.72783 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.10292 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:00 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, enjoy your afternoon 11/11/2023 15:53:00 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:53:00 ControllerChanging: True : 11/11/2023 15:53:00 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, enjoy your afternoon 15:53:00 Sug Resp: ~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four15:53:00 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.68124 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.05634 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:01 ControllerChanging: False : 11/11/2023 15:53:01 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.6358 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:16.01089 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:02 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.5903 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:15.91539 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:03 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.56682 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:15.89192 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:04 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.52105 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:15.84614 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:05 ReachedArrivalSetup : TOD:13.47636 FirstSTARWpt:3.402823E+38 FirstAPPRWpt:15.80146 APPRRadius:3.402823E+38 ReachedArrivalSetup triggered by normal means rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:06 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:53:06 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 11/11/2023 15:53:06 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:53:06 NewGPSWpt: KDAY Next Wpt is Last Wpt: KDAY in FindNextWaypoint SetNearestActiveWaypoint: KDAY NewATCWpt: KDAY rOnReachedTOD. Current Alt: 3320 15:53:07 rOnReachedArrivalSetup 15:53:07 State Changed to: TODDescent 15:53 CheckAssignedAltitude: Old: 5000 New: 3600 Acft Indicated Alt: 3320 Allowed Variance: 150 15:53:08 SpeakAltimeterSetting 15:53:08 SpeakAltimeterSetting 15:53:08 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, have a good afternoon 11/11/2023 15:53:08 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:53:08 ControllerChanging: True : 11/11/2023 15:53:08 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, have a good afternoon 15:53:08 Sug Resp: ~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four15:53:08 rOnReachedTODNextAltitude 15:53:08 State Changed to: IFRDescent 15:53 CheckAssignedAltitude: Old: 3600 New: 3600 Acft Indicated Alt: 3320 Allowed Variance: 150 15:53:08 ControllerChanging: False : 11/11/2023 15:53:08 Retrieving weather from web successful at 11/11/2023 15:53:09 New Com1 Stby Freq: 118.425 Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 118.425. CtlrShrtName: KDAY App_Dep CtlrType: App_Dep15:53:09 rOnReachedNextFltPlanWaypoint: KDAY; 15:53:09 rOnOffEnrouteCourse by-20.1685 NM 15:53:09 Turn Command - MagHeading: 172, NewAssignedHeading: 80 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:53:14 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 11/11/2023 15:53:14 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:53:14 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:53:15 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:53:15 Started Listening Recognized Speech: Approach SPINY Twelve Thirty Four and 15:53:19 UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 11/11/2023 15:53:21 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:53:21 Recognized Speech: At Three Thousand Six Hundred Feet 15:53:21 Stopped Listening HandleInitialContact 15:53:21 SpokenRandomGreeting 15:53:21 HandleInitialApproachContact 15:53:21 CheckSquawkCode 15:53:21 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four good afternoon . Radar Contact. 11/11/2023 15:53:21 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:53:21 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four good afternoon . Radar Contact. 15:53:21 Sug Resp: 15:53:21 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:53:26 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four 11/11/2023 15:53:26 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:53:26 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, enjoy your afternoon 11/11/2023 15:53:26 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 15:53:26 ControllerChanging: True : 11/11/2023 15:53:26 ATC Speak: SPINY Twelve Thirty Four Contact Columbus Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two, enjoy your afternoon 15:53:26 Sug Resp: ~Approach on One One Eight Point Four Two SPINY Twelve Thirty Four15:53:26 ControllerChanging: False : 11/11/2023 15:53:27 Simulator Disconnected. 11/11/2023 15:53:30 State Changed to: Initialized 15:53 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 11/11/2023 15:53:30 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes: 11/11/2023 15:53:30 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 15:53:30 Simulator Disconnected. 11/11/2023 15:53:31 Application frmP2AMain ended normally 11/11/2023 15:53:33

I've run into an issue with the frequency for Montreal Center since Beta7G. For example, sitting at CYAS, I'm given a center frequency of 133.2, but upon switching, it reports as 'ENNM ATIS'. I get similar results at other airports in the area, although it reports different frequency names (06FA Tower, as another example). I tested a few other airports out of that area, such as Atlanta Center, and didn't encounter this. I did try re-installing, and it worked fine, but once I install the latest Beta (7G3b), it was reporting incorrectly again. So, I went back a few betas and walked them forward, and everything works fine up through 7F, but once I move to 7G, or any of it's revisions, I get this result. Attached a partial log here for info: No controller assigned 14:26:21 ControllerFreqChanged: No Controller on the selected frequency: 0 14:26:21 Culture: en-US Pilot Voice:Microsoft David Desktop Sim Connected: MSFS :10/18/2023 14:26:21 ATCAssignsSIDs: False ATCAssignsSTARs: False ForceSTARAssignment: False ATCAssignsAPPRs: True ForcePilotRunwaySelection: True ForceDepRunway: True ForceArrRunway: True AutoLoadRecommendedProcedures: False UseRandomVoices: True No controller assigned 14:26:21 AssignedRunway: RW21 - New Com1 Stby Freq: 133.2 Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 133.2. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found14:26:22 ControllerFreqChanged: 122.1. CtlrShrtName: CYAS MULT CtlrType: MULTICOM14:26:22 No controller assigned 14:26:22 Retrieving weather from web successful at 10/18/2023 14:26:22 ControllerFreqChanged: 126.7. CtlrShrtName: CYAS Gnd CtlrType: Ground14:26:22 No controller assigned 14:26:22 ControllerFreqChanged: 126.7. CtlrShrtName: CYAS Gnd CtlrType: Ground14:26:22 New Com2 Stby Freq: 120.275 SIM Rate Changed: 1 No controller assigned 14:26:22 ControllerFreqChanged: 126.7. CtlrShrtName: CYAS Gnd CtlrType: Ground14:26:22 Com2StandbyFreqChanged: 0. CtlrShrtName: None Found; CtlrType: None Found14:26:22 InterruptAudio in OnPilotSpeaking 10/18/2023 14:26:25 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 14:26:25 Started Listening Recognized Speech: Say Center for PIPER Two Delta Charlie 14:26:28 UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 10/18/2023 14:26:28 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 14:26:28 Stopped Listening GetInformationResponse 14:26:28 ControllerChanging: False : 10/18/2023 14:26:29 InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: PIPER Two Delta Charlie Montreal Center Frequency is One Three Three Point Two 10/18/2023 14:26:29 AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 14:26:29 ATC Speak: PIPER Two Delta Charlie Montreal Center Frequency is One Three Three Point Two14:26:29 Sug Resp: 14:26:29 OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped 10/18/2023 14:26:34 UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes: 10/18/2023 14:26:34 AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 14:26:34 No controller assigned 14:26:35 ControllerFreqChanged: 133.2. CtlrShrtName: ENNM ATIS CtlrType: ATIS14:26:35 New Com1 Stby Freq: 122.1 Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 122.1. CtlrShrtName: CYAS MULT CtlrType: MULTICOM14:26:35 Simulator Disconnected. 10/18/2023 14:26:46 Application frmP2AMain ended normally 10/18/2023 14:26:49 Donnie

Just wanted to throw a huge thanks out there for these. I've been using them for reference the past week, and they have been incredibly helpful in getting more consistent results, particularly for VFR flights.

Thanks, Dave, that makes sense. I suspect I've probably been waiting too late. I'll try to get on that earlier next time, and see how it goes.

Noted this in the Beta 2N release notes, and it raised some questions I've been struggling with: What is the appropriate/best way to request a change of arrival runway, and when? For example, when P2ATC & Traffic Global disagree, and I want to align to TG so I'm not running nose-first into outbound traffic. After the "Expect..." call, or when I'm handed off to approach? And what would be the appropriate phrasing? I've tried a few different variations with mixed success, but more often than not I end up with either a confused routing, or never hearing from ATC again, regardless of any further callouts from me. I fully expect that it's user error, so trying to get a better feel for how to handle it.

That did it! Thanks!

Running into an issue with X-plane 11 & Pilot2ATC (currently running 2.6.3.0 Public Beta 2d) getting IFR release at smaller airports lately, not sure if this is a bug, or just as likely me doing something wrong, but as an example: KMQI, connect to sim, I get ATIS, but no default second channel on swap. Pick KMQI App_Dep (124.75) from Freq list, get my clearance, am told to contact 124.75 (same channel I'm on) for IFR Release when number one for departure. Taxi out, call for IFR release, and instead of release, I get into a seemingly endless loop of getting told to contact 124.75 when ready for IFR Release: Me: Cessna Two Sierra Papa Ready for IFR Release Runway Zero Five at Kilo Mike Quebec India; ATC: Cessna Two Sierra Papa Readback Correct. Contact Departure on One Two Four Point Seven Two for IFR Release when number one for departure. Same result whether I speak, or use SayIt. I've also tried contacting center, but it's apparently also on 124.75 for this area, per the frequency list.