echo19tyler

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Thanks for the detailed feedback and for picking up the sounds! :) We created the headset toggle primarily as an optional comfort measure for longer flights, not as a study-level recreation of any particular ANR headset or a mirror of another developer’s interpretation. That said, your point about wind, ventilation, and other ambient layers is fair. We can improve overall attenuation and filtering in a future update to make long flights even more comfortable. Blue skies

Sincerely hope you enjoy the new sounds! Let me know how you like them and if there are things we can improve on. :)

The issue was related to a checksum error on the backend of our install program created by our friends at TFDi. We didn’t have issues internally or with our pool of nearly 20 early access members, so I was a bit surprised at this problem but it should be resolved.

Thanks for flagging this. To clarify, the issue you’ve described concerns the free bonus liveries rather than the audio package itself. Some early users were having problems with the livery texture files not installing, but that has now been corrected. Please rerun the installer so it can download the fresh files. That should resolve the texture issues. If the problem remains afterward, contact us at [email protected] and we’ll investigate further. Respectfully, I’m not sure how the Boris comparison relates to a temporary file-delivery issue involving bonus content.

Totally understand. We made the decision to focus this package exclusively on MSFS 2024 so we can put our development and support resources into delivering the best experience possible on the current platform. Supporting both platforms would mean splitting those resources, and we’d rather do one version exceptionally well than two versions with compromises. If you’re staying on MSFS 2020, I completely understand that this particular package won’t be for you.

As another member already noted, the ground-roll audio is present and well accounted for. It was intentionally balanced for this aircraft type rather than exaggerated simply to make it more noticeable in a video. These subtler layers can also be harder to distinguish through livestream and video compression, but they build naturally with speed during taxi and takeoff. The interior propeller presence is intentional as well. We captured the real aircraft in flight at multiple power settings and altitudes, then worked closely with TBM pilots and experienced simulator-audio enthusiasts to validate the balance. The propeller does not suddenly disappear in cruise. Its tone and prominence change as power, airspeed, and altitude change. You can hear that progression in the videos: the propeller is more dominant as the aircraft rolls forward and takes off, then transitions gently as the aircraft accelerates and climbs, allowing the turbine, airflow, and cabin layers to become more prominent. The PC-12 can be a useful comparison, but it is a different aircraft and was not our acoustic target for the TBM. The A220 is a separate project, and we do have improvements in testing across several areas, but I’ll leave that there to keep this discussion focused on the TBM. If, after evaluating the released pack, you identify a specific flight condition where the balance seems incorrect, please send us the conditions and a timestamp or reference. We’re always willing to investigate detailed, actionable feedback.

A great review by AvAngel And our own launch trailer: https://youtu.be/jOSG5vsblqw?is=t6miyH7nPpJ1iOWd

Hi everyone, Tyler here, founder of Echo 19 Audio. I’ve read through the discussion and wanted to clarify a few things, not to argue with anyone, but because several assumptions are beginning to be repeated as settled facts. First, our TBM 850 Precision Audio Pack is a separate, optional third-party product. It is not the native Black Square sound update, and it does not replace or cancel anything Nick and Boris may choose to produce in the future. Anyone who would prefer to wait for that is completely free to do so. Boris is very talented and has earned a strong following within the Black Square community. We are not trying to imitate his style. Echo 19 has its own proven track record, technical approach, and philosophy for realistic, believable aircraft audio. For this project, we documented two real TBM 850s, captured more than eight microphone positions and perspectives at up to 192 kHz, and worked directly with TBM pilots. We rebuilt everything from the engine and propeller to cockpit controls, doors, environmental systems, inertial separator, automatic fuel selector, warning systems, and failure effects. We are comfortable letting the finished product stand on that work. We fully understand that our approach will not be everyone’s preference. That is completely fair. However, some comments here have moved beyond personal preference into sweeping technical conclusions about a product that has not yet been released and has not been evaluated firsthand in the simulator. The claim that every sound has simply been pushed through compression and limiting at maximum levels is not accurate. A livestream passes through the simulator output, the creator’s monitoring and broadcast chain, and the platform’s normalization and encoding. It can provide a useful preview, but it is not a controlled evaluation of the final in-simulator mix or its dynamic relationships. We would respectfully encourage people to wait for the finished release, official demonstrations, independent reviews, and firsthand user experiences before reaching a final verdict. Strong opinions are fine, but they should be proportional to the available evidence. We also welcome specific, constructive feedback. If anyone experiences an issue with a released Echo 19 product, please provide the aircraft state, timestamp, reference material, recording, or reproducible behavior through our support channels or official Discord. We genuinely investigate actionable feedback and have updated our products many times because customers took the time to provide it. What we cannot meaningfully investigate are broad declarations such as “atrocious” or “inferior” without supporting examples. Finally, $19.99 (or slighlty less if you buy direct from us) will not represent the right value for everyone, and that is okay. This is an optional premium overhaul priced according to the scope of the recording, development, implementation, testing, and continued support behind it. Nobody is obligated to purchase it. We care deeply about this community and want it to have more high-quality choices, not fewer. All we ask is that the finished product be judged fairly, on its own merits, once people can actually experience it. Thank you to everyone who has shown interest and is willing to give the work a fair listen.