Seems to me the 777 is too smart for its own good.I flew from KLAX to KSAN without a flightplan. Just used the vector map to orient myself, and a couple of VORs and NDBs for reference. These were dialled in the FMC NAV/RAD pages, with the resulting graphical info displayed in the ND.But on approaching KSAN RWY 09, about 30 mls out, I dialed in the frequency of the ILS -110.90, but on passing the 22 mile distance to the RWY, the ND wasn't showing the glideslope. So I landed by the seat of my pants... So I'm curious- is a FP mandatory to bring the ILS to life. IOW, can the ILS frequency be activated only via the DEP/Arr page?Eytan Ornstein

>So I'm curious- is a FP mandatory to bring the ILS to life. >IOW, can the ILS frequency be activated only via the DEP/Arr >page? Eytan,According to my basic aviation knowledge there is no plane in this world that would require you to have FP in its computer in order to operate ILS. That would go against any common sense. If I am wrong - I would be utterly shocked.Michael J.[link:hifi.avsim.net/activesky]http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg

Eytan Yes you can do an ils approach without a fp. Just set the ils freq in the navrad page of the CDU.When in range, confirm it by clicking the LSK on the left.anthonyAnthony MertonPrecision Manuals Developmenthttp://www.precisionmanuals.com

< confirm it by clicking the LSK on the left. > I think that's the missing action; I didn't click on the LSK.Eytan