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I *THINK* you guys are gonna be very pleased with the VNAV update coming soon! I have had some of the same problems reported and have spent countless hours flying in every condition possible to make SURE that they no longer exist on **my system** ;) Here is me after another flawless flight, can you see my grin in the reflection? http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/31298.jpg[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [h4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5]

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RandyLooking good on final although a little low on go juice ;).could you post some shots on initial decent to the final app fix please.Has the Path deviation returned?Oh by the way thanks for the mcp mod it looks great.Thanks in advanceTed

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Hey Randy,It's cool to be able to see what you and your big grin look like in that reflection! :-lol The newer VNAV sounds like great news. Thanks for the update. :)Jimmy Richards

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Here I am a few days ago coming up on my FAF RWY 6 EHAM. As you can see the deviation scale has returned. For all you hard core types, the SCALE is only shown on the MAP and CTR MAP modes just like the real bird and will ALWAYS show if you had a VNAV DES on the FMC, and if you go into another mode for descent it will still be displayed (yes this is also correct) ;)... http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/31300.jpg[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [h4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5]

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> Here I am a few days ago coming up on my FAF RWY 6 EHAM. As>you can see the deviation scale has returned. For all you hard>core types, the SCALE is only shown on the MAP and CTR MAP>modes just like the real bird and will ALWAYS show if you had>a VNAV DES on the FMC, and if you go into another mode for>descent it will still be displayed (yes this is also correct)>It would be REALLY sweet if they could include your MCP fixes with the VNAV update, wouldn't it? And since the TOGA button's a transparent overlay on the upper left screw, it should be easy to add it to your MCP.-Tim Metzinger

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Great news Randy :-)Andr

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Hey RandyWhen will that update be available??

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What I meant was that I did not add a different TOGA than the original ;). [h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [h4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5]

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Your A/T ARM button has a little green light. How'd you do that?Looks good. Can't wait.RegardsJohn Ka

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Update on my MCP *MOD* I will not be sharing this mod, It is impossible for me legally to share this in any manner, I hope you all understand why, the few of you that have tested it will have to remove it to udate to the newest VNAV patch coming soon, as it will NOT work with the update. PMDG is interested in looking at doing it for themselfs and truthfully can do it BETTER than me ;). Thanks to everyone for thier support and hopefully we will see this in an official update in the future. [h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [h4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5]

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Hmmmmm" PMDG is interested in looking at doing it for themselfs and truthfully can do it BETTER than me."Well now this news is just another kick in the teeth from PMDG if you ask me.as for doing it better they had their chance and they blew it bigtime.Ted

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Now now Ted, Can you really fault them for wanting to fix the more important issues at present? I cannot. I have spent COUNTLESS hours messing with this mod. In the end PMDG has shown a great interest in what I have done and WILL update this when time permits, saying "they had their chance" is a bit out of place don't you think? What would you rather have them do? Just forget fixing things because you feel it should have already been done? Words mean nothing but only actions and the track record for updating is in PMDG's favor. [h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [h4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5]

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RandyMy point is that it should have been done better in the first place and the fact that you have been restricted from sharing your mod makes it even worse.I`ve seen freeware panels that have had more thought and craftmanship put into them.It`s the reason you made the mod in the first place.So in other words you are saying that we are stuck with this lousy MCP until PMDG gets around to fixing it.I don`t know Randy as we are almost two months post release and major things just are`nt right and now a minor improvement has been taken away.How much patience must one have to see things right in all respects?"Words mean nothing but only actions and the track record for updating is in PMDG's favor."I don`t know about this Randy as most of the things that have been fixed should never have left the shop at release.Well anyway thanks for sharing as it was an improvement and I liked it.Ted

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Ted, I can understand your frustration, I really can. I have put much more of my time into this aircraft than if I just payed 40 bucks. Just because I am a beta tester does not mean that I don't want all those things perfected does it? Why waste my time? But I cannot look backwards and deal with things that cannot be changed, what happened in the past is just that, we must press forward. This is the point I wanted to get across to you. It disturbs me when people use certain words to describe parts of this aircraft. If you don't like a certain aspect then state this in a non offensive manner like "it would have been better if..." or "I would like to see this improved". Put downs achieve only bad feelings. Is respectfull dialog too much to ask here? Would you pay attention to someone like that Ted?I might have made some nice additions to this MCP but I could have NEVER made one on my own. I am no artist and am amazed at the level already there. Respect my opinion and I will do likewise.[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [h4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5]

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RandyWe see things from a completly different perspectives.You see things as someone who has been involved closely with the project and has their name stamped on it.Of course you will defend it as much as possible and not want to look back because you will not like what you see if you open your eyes.I on the otherhand am just a Joe aviator who has spent 40 dollars on a payware aircraft with the implied understanding that it would work right at the time of purchase.This in my opinion has not occured and I have no choice but to analyze the processes that have led to this point.I am not happy with what I have seen and honestly if refunds were an option I would request one and be done with it.It amazes me to hear you talk about respect and to go to PMDG and request improvments to the Aircraft that in my opinion should never have been an issue eg:MCP.Let me ask you a question.When you turn on the panel lights at nite and look at the mcp what words would you use to describe it?I use the word lousy because it fits not because I intend disrespect.If PMDG wanted respect they should have thought twice before releasing this aircraft even in it`s current patched state.Now I`ve said my piece and do not intend to go round and round with people about this as it will change no minds.Ted

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Um, is it just me or are you managing to get the ILS LOC/GS with both of your VOR receiver switches set to off? :)

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VOR doesn't equal ILS. Those VOR switches control whether VOR needles are drawn on the ND. They don't have anything to do with ILS.Lee Hetherington (KBED)

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Let alone the MCP, if only PMDG can improve the whole panel graphic. I won't go on an endless rant about this but only that I had expected better for a 40 dollar add-on. I hope PMDG will prove me wrong by patching not only the obvious bugs but also the appearance of all the 2D panels.

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>So in other words you are saying that we are stuck with this lousy >MCP until PMDG gets around to fixing it.It's "lousy" because there's a few cosmetic improvements to be made? I think the MCP *functions* very well, which is more important to me than having faux-3D FD switches and green lights. (not that I don't like what you did Randy - it does look very cool!) I really think people just have a problem with the panel not being a "photoreal" one ala Dreamfleet or PIC. PMDG just has a different way of making their artwork (using 3DSMAX etc), which I don't think is "better" or "worse" than the other methods, just different.Ryan

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That 2D panel complaint is a personal opinion, so don't pas it off as a bug... They did it that way, and PSS does it that way too. I don't see anyone dissing PSS. I hope you're not the Thomas K. I think you are, cuz if so, you should know better.DP

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[but also the appearance of all the 2D panels.]Hi, next time you buy an addon for FS, then you can look at the developers website, normally they have screenshots of their work, that way you have a better chance of not getting disapointed.Best RegardsThomas Brix

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DP,Where did I say that it was a bug? It's something that I am dissatisfied with the PMDG product and I have a right to be dissatisfied as a paying customer. For your information, the quality of the 2D panels has been a frequent complaint about the PMDG 737 so my opinion is not of the minority. I guess I should have explained my complaints in greater detail in reply #14 in order to not seem like I'm flame baiting, but I know I'll only be wasting my time. PMDG obviously has more important things to fix with the panel than listen to me lecture about panel visuals.Regarding PSS, they have been "dissed" time and again but because they have obviously no intention of improving their panels, people don't find a reason to talk about it anymore. Furthermore, the PSS forum is MODERATED, thus filtering out negative material. I posted a message at their forum with constructive criticism recently, only to have it censored. The only stuff PSS likes to see are "Thanks PSS, you are the best" comments. Let me forewarn you that PSS are giving you the traditional jumpseat perspective once again in their upcoming A330/340 product with the same perspective as their first add-on panel, the 777, 4 years ago. Nothing has changed within those 4 years.DP, I do not need anyone to discount my opinion. (Not wanting to blow my horn, but as you wish to drag my credentials into this) as a aircraft/scenery designer, advisor and beta tester behind the scenes of various freeware and payware groups, I DO know what I am talking about, thank you very much. I don't post a lot on these forums- I only post when I feel it is absolutely necessary and in this case, I feel it is necessary. The PMDG 737 has a lot of potential. It is certainly one of the better payware airliners to be released in recent days and it has the potential to be the next 767PIC. As such, I will voice out my opinion to the PMDG team that some aspects of the product needs to be improved, with the the panel visuals being one of them.

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What are you suggesting they do? Abandon their method (which I think does look different than PSS's), go out and photograph an NG for a whole day from every concievable angle (not to mention the logistics of doing so) and then completely scrap and redesign the panel? What makes you sure you're in the majority on this issue? I've been on this forum since hour one of the NG's release and I haven't seen a massive amount of complaining about panel graphics, especially when there's real issues like VNAV still running amok. In fact I'd venture to guess that the majority of people who've purchased the NG are not even posting on this forum. The panel looks fine to me - I'm not about to forget that I'm "flying" a $40 simulation on a PC and not sitting in a Level D sim...Ryan

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Nice post Ryan, well said.Interesting that when someone is dissatisfied they feel that they are always in the majority and they have to share their opinion with as many of us as possible.Wonder why that is?GeorgePS: Actually IMHO PSS's and PMDG's 2D graphics are better than PIC. And yes I own all three. One more thing, I plan to continue evaluating and purchasing future products from all three vendors. Is that blasphemy to mention is this forum? :-lol

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I would like to see a better 2D Panel someday if possible. You have ever right to express yourself, go on brother. regardsNoboru

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