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Today flying from KSEA to AnchorageUsing Weather Centre 2 in FS2004, There was bad winds, But the plane could not handle it and it bobed up and down so bad that in the end it just droped out of the sky, and I could no longer be botherd to keep control of it, manaul or auto flight, it made no difference.My question is is this a bug, or is have i done something wong?Jason

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You are not alone Jason. These same horrible wind shifts and temperature shifts have been reported by people using FSMETEO 6 and ActiveSky. Seems to be a problem between the global weather supplied by these programs and the FS2004 model of blending this to make local weather.For now I am back to using the built in real word weather in FS2004 until this gets straightened out.

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Hey guys,I was just reading your message post and wondered why you use third party weather programmes? I used ActiveSky in FS2002, but this was only because of the lack of continual weather updates available.Is there any advantage of using third party weather programmes in FS9?Warm RegardsKimberly.

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Just Keeps happening, The Autopilot cant handle it, If I hand Fly it, its ok. Now I Know might be the same in real life So ill see.Jason

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OK this really needs looking Now, For those who have ActiveSky or weather centre 2, Try a flight from KSEA to Alaska, You will have seveer problems.1) ALT hold wont work, the plane holds alt then Climbs and stalls,2) Plane is fine hand flying, but Trim is aggersive and you cant Trim for stright and level.3) Auto Pilot send the plane bouncing like a super ball, but not when disengaged.Please help!!!Jason

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Hi Kimberly,while the weather engine has been improved in FS2004, the weather server is still the same as for FS2000/FS2002. Although FS now has the capability of updating the weather every 15 minutes, this isn't of much use, if the weather data it gets is outdated. It may be OK in the US, but in the rest of the world the weather is outdated most of the time. Try it by getting the actual weather for any airport you wish (www.vatsim.net provides accurate weather data), and compare it to what FS 'real' weather gives you. Then there are problems with violent wind and pressure changes etc., so there is still room for good weather add-ons.Cheers,Gosta.http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg

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Ok Im Fed up Now with this, This a typical example of what happens, See Attched Screen Shot.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/32817.jpgATl hold Not working, VS Gone Mad, Im not blaming PMDG, but Im fed up now.EDIT***Auto pilot is Disengaged becuase Im trying to regain Control!!Jason

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I Will Try Right Now and Let you Know

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Jason,This was happening to me every flight with FSMETEO 6.01 & FSUIPC Registered 3.05. I've switched back to the built in FS2004 weather and these violent shifts are all but gone. The ones that do pop up are not bad enough to throw the plane out of whack.I'm hoping that Pete Dowson and the makers of these external weather programs can find a fix for this. These wind shifts can't be realistic...

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Yes we need to see if this happens with DEFAULT severe weather. Flying in the worst case (thunder storm) in FS 9 I can control the craft although it's being bounced around (normal in these conditions). I will load up some other payware that are in FS 9 with external weather program and see if I have what you are talking about.[h4]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [/4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h3]

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Ok Well its just happened again using FS2004 Default Weather.I Cant see what the problem is.Jason

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Kimberly(Sunnyzsz),If you are still curious about the advantages of a third party Weather Program, there are a few. One is the weather is more recent using a third party program. In the case of WeatherCenter, it has a Weather Radar that's pretty nice. You can also turn on Airport Facility data on the radar and it shows where airports are similar to the GPS. Anyway, here some screenshots of it if you want a look at it. :)http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...4&mesg_id=76644Cheers,Jim Richards

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Ok Im getting worried now, I just flew with no weather, and Weather Centre was turned off, The Plane bobed up and down like a YoYo.I dont know what to do now? My FSUPIC is registerd, and paied for.I have wasted a whole day on this now. FS SUX's, nothing ever works, with it anymore. You buy all thease addons, and they only ever half work, or this wont work, buy this buy that, that costs to upgrade, patch is out in a week.Sorry for ranting and im not getting at PMDG, but please understand how anoying this is.Please is anybody else having this problem. and why does this only happen when the Auto Pilot is engaged.Jason

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Jason, When nothing seems to wrok correctly I tend to revert back to square one that being a full re-install of the aircraft, just maybe along the way your installation got corrupted and it cannot hurt to re-install. Please use this remover http://www.precisionmanuals.com/downloads/..._737_REMOVE.EXE After you install the original release make sure to update with SU1 here http://www.precisionmanuals.com/downloads/...eration_SU1.ZIP Hopefully this will correct what is going on for you. [h4]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [/4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/196432/mineimage.jpg [h3] Realism on the horizon AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF2 MX 32 MEG and still runs GOOD!|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h3]

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I'm not qualified to answer to your last question, but a comment :Could it be the other weather add-ons have modified some FSUIPC settings ? If this is the case, then could some trouble happen ?anthonyAnthony MertonPrecision Manuals Developmenthttp://www.precisionmanuals.com

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Jason, Its not the plane its FSMETEO. I experience the same problems that you have described. Its as if someone picked up your plane and gave it a toss which renders it out of control. I usually cruise along at mach .76 and all of the sudden the winds shift violently and I'm in a stall. This is very annoying. I'm playing around with FSUIPC to see if some of the settings will get her to work properly. I'm glad someone else here has experienced the same problem as I. This is not the plane its the add-on weather generator. Sean

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Ok Guys I think ive fixed it. Here goes:I re-installed the plane completely, and I noticed something. When using the load manager, and then starting up FS2004, the plane was always overloaded FS2004 told me so in the Fuel and Payload manager (NO MATTER WHAT LOAD I PUT IN). After the reinstall I choose mixed class 700 with full 1st class and 100 Passengers. When i went in to FS2004, this time it did not tell me I was overloaded, and before the re-install it did?I fired up the plane at KSEA, got her in the air and all was fine, (No Weather) Climbed to 10000 and no problem, climbed to FL250 no problem. Then I fired up Weather Centre, got the weather and climed to FL310 where wind was gusting at 61 knots, stayed there for 10 min, no problems (and weather all going full tilt) Then I requested alt chage to FL350 for calmer winds (30 Knots) all without problems.I then played around with FSUPIC, and rest all settings back to default, again no problems. Then I started to put back my settings in FSUPIC, and what do you know, she went crazy ingnoring the ALT hold and started to climb at a rate of over 1000ft, hence stalling like a ####. I recoverd and check the FSUPIC settings, as Soon as i unchecked the REVERSE RUDDER TRIM SETTINGS, and Smooth wind changes around plane she was fine.I hope this helps guys, and if anyone can come up with the defeintive settigs that would be great. Its 3:30 am here so im going to bed, but ill be on it again tommorw.Good luckJason

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Regarding flickering and extreme shears in FS2004 with ActiveSky, check this link: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...g_id=4358&page=Also read the important thread "Common FS2004 Issues", plus the ActiveSky & FS2004 readmes. Just done all the changes, now I`m off for a test flight with ActiveSky in the offline modus using metar...whish me luck:)

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I would be interested to know the flight plan you have and how far into it before control is lost. I just flew a flight from KSEA and had one bought of fairly volent winds but it passed in about 10 - 15 seconds then was as smooth as babys behind. I also got some bobbing up and down though I was able to trim it out ok.Interestingly WC 2 (which is what I use) states that the gust speed is exactly the same as the aloft wind speed. At FL350 I had 77kts wind speed at 77kts gusts in the WC UI. Good post title :-)Steven.

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