November 29, 200322 yr I have been using the Dreamfleet 737 for ages and now I have converted to 2004, I find it is not compatable. I have been told the 737TNG is superb. Before I splash out my 30$ is it really better than the DF737. Thanks. Bealine
November 29, 200322 yr Never tried the DF737, but it's a different version of 737, so I don't think you can compare them straight ahead.However, I can tell you that the 737NG is worth every cent. :)
November 29, 200322 yr Well, although they are both modelling different airplanes and considering the fact that that the NG was developed at a time when the technology is more advanced than when the DF734 was made (for FS2000), I'll say that the NG is a nice replacement for the DF734.One thing I do prefer in the DF734 was those photo real panel textures. The NG has the sort of "cartoonish" hand drawn panel that seems to be the norm these days (in the interest of saving on FPS I assume). There isn't a blemish, a scratch, some spilled coffee on the MCP......you know what I mean. (Not that I'm complaining...but little imperfections does help with the immersion factor).But then again, DF and Flight1 are known for their photoreal panels. (Look at the screenshots of their upcomming ATR and 727 and you'll see what I'm talking about).Also, the manuals that came with the PMDG NG weren't as detailed as those that came with the DF737. But if you're a DF737 expert, you should have no problems with the NG because they are somewhat similar in operation.......in terms of systems, etc. There are a few differences, but if you are comfortable with the DF737, then learning to fly the PMDG NG should be a walk in the park.IMHO, getting the PMDG NG will be a good replacement for the DF737.However, I would advise you to wait until they release the SU2 update before you get it.
November 29, 200322 yr Anthony. Thanks for your reply.Any idea when the SU2 update will be ready. Rgds. Lee EGLF
November 29, 200322 yr >>>Anthony. Thanks for your reply.Any idea when the SU2 update will be ready. Rgds. Lee EGLF<<<
November 29, 200322 yr "Never tried the DF737, but it's a different version of 737, so I don't think you can compare them straight ahead."I think this is kind of a misleading statement I hear guys making all the time. Of course you can compare the two!! Just like you can compare, what's a better vehicle to buy an SUV or a sports car? Depends on what you're looking for.What you need to compare is the representation of the two, the features, the layout, the manuals, how the two of them make you believe you're actually flying the kind of aircraft you're simulating flying.That being said, I think the nail was hit on the head here, in some of the above posts. Sure the DF panel is photorealistic, and looks fantastic in my view, quite possibly the best looking panel in MSFS. The FMC for the DF is very detailed and usable, but works as a separate program. The systems portrayed (switches and such) were marginally done. The crew cabin announcements are probably still the best in MSFS, gave you a great immersion factor. The included aircraft are dated looking now, but still functional. Not near as horrible as what came with PIC767 and the PSS 777. Support may be waning a little, but I'm sure there's plenty to be had, forum-wise.The PMDG NG, I've purchased, taken it for a few flights, and here's what I see. The panel picture can't compare with DF. I won't go so far as to say it's "cartoony" but it does look like a .bmp (whatever that means). The FMC is very detailed as well, and from what everyone's read about SU2 only going to get better! The systems are very well done, and getting better. Not quite up to Oleksiy Frolov's Dash 8 yet (or PIC767), but getting there. No crew cabin announcements for that immersion factor (maybe in a future upgrade), although you can add your own easily enough. The included aircraft are very detailed, maybe too much so (can't believe I'm saying that) as right now, pre-SU2, they're a little hard on frames. There is an included VC and cabin view as well. As you can see by the active forum here, support is really never in question. Not like other add-ons (and I'm not talking about PSS, at least they actually post in their forum, ahem, cough, cough, PIC, cough, 767)So you see, it is easy to compare these two aircraft. The DF737 is still the best representation of a 737-300 out there, just not quite ready for FS9, and the PMDG NG is hands-down the best representation of a 737NG.I say go ahead and purchase the NG, I don't think you'll be disappointed, unless you're looking for an airplane just to hop into, kick the tires and light the fires.Just my 2 cents though.Joe G.
November 29, 200322 yr >snip>So you see, it is easy to compare these two aircraft. The>DF737 is still the best representation of a 737-300 out >>snip>Joe G.It's a 737-400Andy B(still complying with the forum rules) Andy Brockbank
November 30, 200322 yr I have both; PMDG 737NG! Simple! I can't believe the above stated that the systems representation isn't quite up the Dash 8; I am sure it's far beyond that -- it's what we don't see that's amazing -- all that code behind those glass screens making this beast run like clockwork...stunning! http://www.jet-precision.com/Uploads/MM-JPS.jpg
November 30, 200322 yr Have you flown the Fanda Dash 8?Since I actually never responded to the orginal question, lol, I think it's safe to say, the PMDG NG compares more favorably(?) than the DF737. The DF737 is a great plane, but a little long in the tooth, get the PMDG NG, I really think you'll be happy with her.Joe G.
November 30, 200322 yr Hi"I have been using the Dreamfleet 737 for ages and now I have converted to 2004, I find it is not compatable."That is where is you are mistaken My friend.Peter Mcleland has come up with a nice setup that you can use in 2004.Those photorealistic panels still blow me away and wish PMDG would think about that for any future releases.As well as cost indexing,opt/max alt/route offsets to name a few things.;)Right Randy;)Have anice dayTed
November 30, 200322 yr LeeA simple answer to your question is that it compares favourably. But that doesn't give you the whole picture.The Dreamfleet panel represents a 737-400 and did a terrific job in FS2002. As far as doing as good a job in FS2004 is concerned, we simply don't know yet as the 'new' product is still under development.However, more basic than this is the fact that the 737 series 400 and NG (600/700 etc.) panels are different enough to warrant real pilots having to go through extra training/conversion programs to accustom themselves to the very different instruments etc.In an ideal world, and on the assumption that the DF panel, when released, will be as good as it was in FS2002, I'd say get both because operating each of them is like flying (almost) completely different planes, at least as far as the panels are concerned.Right now though, the only comprehensive one available for FS2004 is the PMDG and, put simply, it's superb. Try it - if you like the kind of flying the DF panel gave you, you'll love the PMDG!Toni.
November 30, 200322 yr Hell I agree with you on all points Ted! I am a photo panel lover myself although I do enjoy the PMDG''s panel, it still is not my first choice in panel style. Sure CI and the like are coming Ted, but are meant for the next phase, all I can do is deal with what we have and it will tie me over (hopefully you also) till the 800-900..... [h4]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smithhttp://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/196432/winglets_lg.jpg Randy J Smith
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