December 22, 200322 yr I find that sometimes the speedbrakes deploy at touchdown and sometimes not. More often not.What is (in detail please) the proper way to arem speed brakes so that they always deploy properly at touch down?ILS(I find that when doing an aoutoland with 2xA/P and autoflare the aircraft - despite the correct approach speed and properly entered data into the FMC - lands *very* smoothly, first touching its main gear very lightly and then again touching down. Perhaps is the autoland landing the aircraft a bit too smoothly, hence the speedbrakes not sensing it is a real landing and not deploying accordlingly?)
December 22, 200322 yr I also find the landing very smooth but the speedbrakes have always deployed when armed in my case. I set my approach speed on the FMC normally at the 30
December 22, 200322 yr >the short of it is: >>-> arm speedbrakes on approach and set autoland to 1 (or more>if you need it).>>Hope this helps, and if I am waAAAAy off the mark - I never>mind a gentle correction :-)>>cheers,>Ronnie>>http://ronnie.vandelaak.com/baw644.gifAutobrakes are not necessary for autospoilers, but an idle throttle IS.if you've got an external throttle, be sure it's at idle when you're touching down. Otherwise what happenes is when the autothrottles disconnect at touchdown the sim samples your throttle controller and sets the sim throttles to match.Opening your throttles once on the ground causes spoiler retraction and autobrake disconnect.
December 22, 200322 yr Tim, that could be a good call. If you are one who is seeing the aircraft creep at idle throttle on the ground with the brakes applied, you might have throttle calibration issues. I don't know how sensitive PMDG's logic is, but if it sees non-idle throttle, it could definitely interfere with spoilers as well as autobrakes.Try this: on the ground external throttle at idle, what N1 do you see? Now disable the external controller, push F1 to go to idle, and do you see a lower N1? If you do, your external throttle calibration is not supplying the idle values to FS.Lee Hetherington (KBED)http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/betaimg.jpg
December 22, 200322 yr Lee,=======================On ground, idle: N1 showing 21.1Pressing F1: N1 shoing 20.4Moving sidewinder joystick thrttle up and bit and then down as far as possible: 21.1%Pressing F1: 20.4%=======================ILS
December 22, 200322 yr When I autoland and right when it auto-retards throttles, I disengage A/T and press F1 (meaning hopefully that I will now *really* have pulled back throttle to idle), then speedbrake/spoilers deploy properly and I can autoland *with* deployed speedbrakes which I could do before.OK, so now it seems we know the mechanisms of why my speedbrakes did not deploy.What would be the proper way of dealing with the phenomena here? Now there's a workaround, but it's not a simulation of the real 737NG anymore...Is there something with my FS2004 setup I should go over? Or is this a PMDG 737 NG issue?The autolanding was absolutely beautiful, amazing work my Precision Manuals I must say!ILS(Nose a bit high, needs help down, and if yoke isn't under supervision, nose tends to want to go up again, until well below 85-90 knots - otherwise - perfect.)
December 23, 200322 yr Even better, you can directly monitor the joystick input and output values by selecting the Joysticks tab in FSUIPC.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, D.C. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
December 23, 200322 yr I have asked you already sir, please sign your REAL NAME to your posts, thank you! "When I autoland and right when it auto-retards throttles, I disengage A/T and press F" You do not need to turn the A/T OFF, it switches OFF on it's own just like the real bird in autoland *DUAL*..[h4]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smithhttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/betaimg.jpg Randy J Smith
December 23, 200322 yr Yes, but I think you need a fully functional version (i.e., purchase it) to get all the calibration functionality. Personally, I really find FSUIPC worth it to work around FS screwups.Lee Hetherington (KBED)http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/betaimg.jpg
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