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Cargo Doors/Beeping during TO

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First of all, Great job with SU2 PMDG !!!Still some minor problems though. I wonder if anyone else is having diff. with opening the Bay/Cargo doors with Shift+E+2 command, i have tried all variations, but it realy dosent work on this bird,...Why ?.sekondly, is there a way to get rid of the terrible beeping during takeoff, even plane is configured correct. It came with the new update.Thanks in advance and Best RegardsJP ;o)

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Are you certain the plane is configured right? I only get the beeping if I throttle up with no flaps set. If I set just 1 degree of flaps, the beeping stops.

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Hej Ross, Thanks for reply.I alway takeoff with 5 dgrs setting, trim correct etc. Prob. ocured after SU2.Best Regards JP ;o)

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Weird ... do you get the beeping when you're taxiing out also? What version of FS are you running?

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Sounds like the takeoff configuration warning to me.The takeoff configuration is armed when the airplane is on the ground and either or both forward thrust levers are advanced to takeoff. An intermittent takeoff warning horn sounds if:- Trailing edge flaps are not in the flaps 1 through 25 takeoff range, or- leading edge devices not configured for takeoff, or- SPEED BRAKE lever is not in the DOWN position, or- Spoilers not down with the speedbrake lever in the DOWN position, or- parking brake is set, or- stabilizer trim not in the takeoff range (green band)The warning indication is cancelled when the configuration error is corrected.Floyd

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Hey Floyd ;o)This is Brilliant, you just putted mee on the track.In flight preparation, i always check funktion of Speedbrake deployment. But when its activated and set back into Down position the alarms starts beeping during TO.If im not making this check, no alarm, nice and quiert during TO, This looks like a bug to mee, and i wonder if anyone else face the same problem, ore if it just has to bee this way ??.But thanks a lotTake Care JP.

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Hej RossIm driving FS9, and no problems during taxi.See reply to/from Floyd.Best regards JP ;o)

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Hi JP,I have exactly the same problem, the beeping only occurs after the 2nd take off run. In other words: if the plane has flown already before, and is used on a 2nd flight.I checked the spoilers but there does not seem to be a difference. Does anyone of PMDG have a solution or is it just a bug? Using FS2002 btw.Regards,Mark Jansen

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I get the beeping as soon as I open the throttles, even slightly to taxi. The beeping sound stops when the thrust levers are fully back.Making sure the plane is correctly configured (e.g. for takeoff) makes no difference - this happens every time. (FS9 and SU2)I reckon it's a minor bug.Toni.

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Has anyone got any ideas on the 'beep' warnings on advancing the throttles?I've noticed this also happens when using the TOGA button during the takeoff roll, and the beeping stops as soon as the plane is airborne.'Bug' or simple solution?Toni.

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Hej Mark and ToniThe problem only occure (on my FS) when touching/arming Speedbrake lever, eg. on preflight check. So hands off !!! ;o) If advancing throttles to much while taxiing, i also get the beeping, but not with normal taxit hrust setting.For your problem Mark, if beeping starts already when advancing throttles from zero it can have something with the calibration af your joystick.Now im getting around the problem by NEVER touching the Speedbrake lever before flight, and when making a stop over at an airport, i reload the plane, so speedbrake bug is reset.So nice and quiert ;o)and i Agree Toni. it would bee GREAT with a comment from PMDG, ore a real life 737NG jockey on this one !!!.Best RegardsJP

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Have you installed any add on liveries I had this problem after new liveries were installed It stopped after I used the load out manger to reset passenger and cargo load

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Sounds like a programming problem to me (related to the speedbrake). In some cases, it might possibly be exacerbated by joystick throttle calibration or excessive thrust used during taxy.I can't get the speedbrake to work properly in flight. Speedbrake lever visuals are not matching speedbrake sounds/effects. The SPEEDBRAKE ARMED light also illuminates when the Speedbrake Lever is in the FLT position (I don't think that this is correct). Until I can polish up my VNAV PTH descent skills, correct Speedbrake ops would come in mighty handy :-)Using FS2002Cheers.Ian.

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Interestingly, to my surprise I recently saw on a video, or DVD I should say, that after landing the SPEEDBRAKE ARMED light remains illuminated even after deployment. Then, at some point shortly before exiting the runway, it extinguished and the SPEEDBRAKE DO NOT ARM light illuminated. It makes you wonder what triggers all that. (Speed going below 60? Manual braking?)Have yet to find a piece where they use the speedbrake in flight, to see what the light does in that case, although, along with you, my gut feeling is that it won't come on.Leo Bakker

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The problem occured before Add on liveries too, anyhow interesting to check the reset poss.Thanks Robert ;o)

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"...after landing the SPEEDBRAKE ARMED light remains illuminated even after deployment."Interesting.My manual says:"The SPEEDBRAKE ARMED light comes on when the automatic operation of the speedbrake system (arms) correctly. This occurs when the speedbrake lever is in the ARMED detent or either thrust lever is in reverse, and all of these occur:1.One or more antiskid channel operates2.Auto speedbrake actuator retracted3.No disagree in the wheel spin speeds and air/ground signals."Re item #1, I assume "operates" simply means that the antiskid system is serviceable... not that it is currently applying brake release signals.Re item #2, "speedbrake actuator retracted" = Speedbrake actuator hasn't moved the speedbrake lever to the UP position.Re item #3, there should be no disagreement on a serviceable aircraft.However, later on, it says that the SPEEDBRAKE ARMED light also illuminates when the autospeedbrake module sends a raise command to the autospeedbrake relays."Then, at some point shortly before exiting the runway, it extinguished and the SPEEDBRAKE DO NOT ARM light illuminated. It makes you wonder what triggers all that. (Speed going below 60? Manual braking?)"The DO NOT ARM light is supposed to indicate a fault. It indicates that the autospeedbrake system is not arming properly. It illuminates when the speedbrake lever is in the ARMED position or if one of the reversers are in reverse and one of the following occurs:Antiskid inopAutospeedbrake actuator not retractedDisagreement between wheelspeeds and air/ground signalsAs I understand it, if the speedbrake lever is manually pushed forward (to the DN position) after being automatically actuated, the speedbrake actuator is not actually moved to the retracted position (some kind of backdrive system allows movement of the lever without movement of the actuator). Therefore, if the reversers were still deployed and the speedbrake lever was manually moved to the DN position, it may be satisfying the DO NOT ARM light logic requirements. With the Speedbrake Lever manually moved down and the autospeedbrake actuator still extended (and the reversers still up), it might also cause the SPEEDBRAKE ARMED light to extinguish (see requirements above).In the video, was the speedbrake lever stowed before the reversers? (If so, is this normal?) I may have missed something, but that is the only thing I can think of at the moment that would cause the indications in your DVD."Real" 737NG engineer input required, I think ;-)Cheers.Ian.

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Yes, I had installed a couple of new liveries.Resetting the PAX / baggage using Load Manager seems to have worked for me. Only getting the beeping if the plane's badly configured now.Thanks for the help Robert.(Perhaps PMDG should include this suggestion in the livery add-on Readme for anyone experiencing this bug....)Toni.

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I have the same problem, it seems that that is a bug, when you touched the spoilers lever, the horn works, eben if t/o settings are ok.Chris

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Ian the speedbrake armed light is always on in flight or on the ground when the handle is beyond the armed position.You are exactly right about the DO NOT ARM light. if the speed brake is manually stowed after it has been auto deployed for landing the autospeed brake motor stays at the extend position. If the throttles never exceed 60 degrees TLA (throttle lever angle) the motor stays in the deploy position. As soon as 60 TLA is exceeded the auto speed brake motor will stow and the DO NOT ARM will extinguish.

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"Ian the speedbrake armed light is always on in flight or on the ground when the handle is beyond the armed position."Thanks, Wallace.Will you tell Boeing their manuals suck... or will I? :-) IN means IN, in my language..... I don't know about theirs.Cheers.Ian.

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I had the same problem, but i found how to stop that happening.The horn is a warning, for when you are on ground, not to use too much thrust, especially if you are taxxing. you have to stop this by "telling the plane" that you are about to takeoff. Make sure your flaps are set, runway heading in course and heading box'setc etc all the stuff you are doing, also make sure (i havent seen anyone talking about this either) the Vspeeds for takeoff are set, and activated, also make your RTO is activated, as i havebt heard anyone talk about that either. now, thats all fine but the plane still dosent know" that you are about to takeoff, so make sure when you takeoff, you use the TO/GA switch. accelerate to 40percent N1, anything above 40 N1 will cause the horn to go off, at 40N1, activate TO/GA, and it should work fine. (who i think is Randazzo) will call out 80knots, V1, Rotate and V2 and up up and away! this is how real world procedures do it, if it dosent work then must be a bug. Also about the Cargo Doors, try Shift+E and let go, almost directly after hit 1 , like when turning in pushback ;)Daniel

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I'll let them know, If I can find them(can you say "out sourced" must have gotten mixed up in the translation.)I share your frustation in more ways than you can imagine.

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