I would like someone to tutor me in the function of TOGA. It seems that this is some hidden secret. We click on a screw and all sorts of automatic systems take over the throttle system. I need to know what it is doing and when it is doing it. Does the TOGA function up to a certain point or when does it cease. onandon with questions. If someone could give a complete rundown on how to and whn to? Is this a real life system and if so why is it represented as a screw on this panel and a light you press on the MS versio. Is there a button or a switch or a knob in the real world?Someone help me,Timothy C.

Hi Tim,Did you check out the documentation and tutorials. Pretty good descriptions in there! ;-)In the real world and in the VC the levers are on the Throttles. If you search the forum I believe there are a couple of nice screen shots. >Is this a real life system and if so why is it represented as a screw It is on the screw on the 2D panel as a "Feature" to give a way of activating without having to change panels or go to the VC. Everything in the package is modeled after a r/w system. Only way PMDG will do it! :-)

Thanks Geo, now I am a little more comfortable--yes I am going thru the tuorial 2 now--what a great flight --never had this much control in flying the heavies before --I am on my way to the third day of training now. Any way I hope toga makes more sense as I proceed.Tim

George,I agree with your point that having TOGA on the glareshield is easier than accessing the Throttle Quadrant on departure, etc. However, cliking a somewhat hidden 'screw' is odd compared to the other excellent features of PMGD. Vmax' 747-600 has a neat TOGA underneath the panel, just as if were protruding from the Throttle. I wonder if it's simply a matter of design. If so, it can be improved.Greetings from BrazilBPilot>Hi Tim,>>Did you check out the documentation and tutorials. Pretty>good descriptions in there! ;-)>>In the real world and in the VC the levers are on the>Throttles. If you search the forum I believe there are a>couple of nice screen shots. >>>Is this a real life system and if so why is it represented as>a screw >>It is on the screw on the 2D panel as a "Feature" to give a>way of activating without having to change panels or go to the>VC. Everything in the package is modeled after a r/w system.>Only way PMDG will do it! :-)

It is on a scew because it cannot GO where it's suppose to in the 2D panel. What needs to make sense? You push a button on takeoff for takeoff thrust. Pretty simple and makes a whole lot of sense, will make more sense once you spend time learning about the AFDS modes. Do you think that having another panel open just to click the TOGA would somehow make it easier on takeoff? It's the best compromise given the circumstances, namely, there is no way to put the toga button where it is suppose to go on the throttle quadrant and it's a heck of a lot easier where it's at. Need I remind folks that this is a computer simulation and the fact that one has to use a monitor insted of a windscreen to view their simulated world is a compromise eh ;-) [h4]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smithhttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/betaimg.jpgAMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |

Sergio,>" cliking a somewhat hidden 'screw' is odd"To add, since there is no realworld example to use, the possiblities are endless on how design comprimises can be made. PMDG chose this one. You have suggested another one. IMHO, there is no reason to judge that PMDG's desing is "Odd". It's just the design comprimise PMDG chose. No judgement required. ;-)

Hi GeorgeWell, I'm with Sergio here, at least after a fashion. Now that I've come to understand about PMDG and their 737 I now also understand *why* the TOGA button is an innocuous looking screw but, when I first started to learn how to fly this plane I, too, thought it an interesting design quirk and would have made more sense to site a proper button on the 2D panel,

An interesting but slightly puzzling design quirk. I guess it has to be somewhere but I found it pretty bizarre when I started flying this most excellent machine to have to click the screw. And the location of the TOGA was certainly a most frequently asked FAQ in this forum among those of us who leave RTFM until we have chalked up a few hours in the sky. However I then got myself a Saitek X45 joystick and throttle and programmed one of the buttons on the throttle for the TOGA and it ceased to be an issue.Chris

I like it hidden in the 2D=)