July 6, 200421 yr I know you guys are working hard at this project, but I am just trying to get a general idea as to what to expect regarding this product.My questions,1 - Will the product be made to the same standard as the 737-800/900 or will it be more in line with the PMDG lite 1900D?2 - Given the limitations of MSFS, can this product be ultimately comparable to the PS1.3a simulation by aerowinx?I am trying to ascertain whether this product will have the potential to be used as a training aid. As a real life airline pilot, I can honestly say that your B737-800/900 software is most certainly usable as a training aid. Although there are a few minor bugs, there is nothing currently available in my opinion that does a better job of simulating the 737NG.CheersAlecs Bains
July 6, 200421 yr Hi Alecs !Could You, as a real pilot, tell me tje minor bugs im the 737NG, how does it seperate to a real 737NG?By the way, i think PMDG'S 747 will more be like the 737NG than as the Lite 1900D.Thanks Marcello
July 6, 200421 yr From the PMDG website:> Highly detailed 747-400 and 747-400D GMax exterior models > Three engine variations - GE, PW and RR > 4 different Main Panel perspectives> Authentic Glass Cockpit Displays / Complete FMC and EFIS controls> Virtual Cockpit and Upper Deck Cabin> Most switches, knobs and systems operable and animated> Accurate 747-400 flight model performing to manufacturer specifications> Sound set recorded from real flight deck> Comprehensive Aircraft Operating Manual- A Precision Manual!So as you can see this is not something you would compare to PMDG's BEECH 1900D.Have a look at their website... http://www.precisionmanuals.com/They have two pictures of the flightdeck...Come and join the nail biting wait for it's release ;-)Boaz...Boaz...
July 6, 200421 yr There seems to be alot of posts about the 744 lately. I guess it is really going to be something. I am having a great time flying the NG, so I may not be as excited as everyone else but I am sure by the time it is realeased the previews will having me ready to buy. Andrew
July 7, 200421 yr The 744 will certainly be on PAR with the NG and not the b1900. I would venture that it will be more advanced ;-) but that's just MO.Best Wishes,[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4][h3]P M D G's 747-400[/h3][h4]coming to a runway near you[/h4][/font color]Caution! Not a real pilot, but do play one on TV ;-)AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 | Randy J Smith
July 7, 200421 yr Marcello,In my opinion the bugs in the NG are very minor. So minor in fact that I have seen actual C.B.T. (Computer Based Training) software in place at airlines which is buggier than the PMDG bird. I must also stress that in the real world I have never flown a 737 NG. My experience is limited to the MD-80, B747-400, and various turboprops. Most of the bugs involve the FMS more than anything else. There are obviously some system logic bugs as well (ie. flaps moving with no hydraulic pressure, etc.) however these are very minor and in my opinion do not take away from the simulation. With respect to the FMS, the altitude prediction / performance functions do not seem to be modelled correctly in my opinion, however people on this board have argued otherwise so I could be wrong. Again I have no actual experience with the 737, but what I can say, is that on a 747-400, or MD80 for that matter, the TOC mark on your ND is precisely where the aircraft will level off. The Optimum / Max cruise altitude displayed on the CRZ page of the FMS also seems to read a little higher than the aircraft is willing to achieve. Fuel prediction / execution algorithms seem slightly off, however, unless you have experience working with the real FMS, you are not likely to notice.Rather than focusing on small bugs, what I should stress here, is that PMDG has done an outstanding job of recreating the feeling of flying a jet transport aircraft. Not only have they created a product that I as well as many other pilots can use for proficiency, they have created it within the limitations of FS2004. With the exception of the PIC 767 which is getting dated, and the Fanda Dash-8, the 737 is in a league of its own.Alecs Bains
July 7, 200421 yr "2 - Given the limitations of MSFS, can this product be ultimately comparable to the PS1.3a simulation by aerowinx?"All depends on the dedication of the beta team, Alecs. I think a few of us will burn out trying to achieve the technical excellence of PS1.3 (in a short period of time). PS1.3 took at least 5 years to create. Are you willing to wait that long? :-) (Admittedly, there are more programmers in the PMDG team, but it would still take a long time to programme).Yes, PMDG are handicapped trying to build a realistic simulation with MSFS as a base, but the final product will make most simmers happy, I'm sure. Compromises will have to be made in some areas, but whether an expert simmer will notice these, we will have to wait and see. Anyway, I'll certainly be comparing the two sims as we go ;-)Cheers.Ian.
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