Being new to the superb PIC B767, I have started to experiment with the Autopilot. For some strange reason when the autopilot with LNAV and VNAV is engaged, after two hours of flying superbly as per the flight plan in the FMC the electronic systems seem to fail, and I am unable to recover the aircraft and it then crashes. I have double checked the PIC failures to make sure they are not ticked, (which they are not!), I have checked also the aircraft systems in the main FS2K2 menu, and they are set to easy with no failures!I asked PIC to repair failures, but it says that the flight is fine!Can anybody very kindly explain what I am doing wrong?, very many thanks.Yours Totally confused!Best Wishes, to allChris.J.HickmanEGBB

May sound a little silly, but the only thing I can think of is a dual engine failure simultaneously? Do you have enough fuel on board?RegardsMark

Thanks Mark, no I just assumed that if I set the default settings in FS2K2 so unlimited fuel this would apply in FS2K" obviously not!Being new to PIC 767 How do you set the fuel?Sorry to be a nusiance.Best Wishes,Chris

Chris,You'de be more of a nuisance if you kept crashing (on line). :-)Got to: Aircraft, fuel. It's a standard FS2K2 menu.Kind regards,Stephan Haashttp://vatsim.pilotmedia.fi/statusindicato...or=SVA1&a=a.jpg

Hi Stephen,Many thanks for your kind reply.Unfortunately I've already tried that, but I still keep on losing power. Is there a seperate switch in PIC that I have forgotten to set in the FMC for fuel loading?Once again many thanks,Best Wishes,Chris

Chris, Best to make a screenshot of your panel just before this happens so we can see what's going on in your cockpit. Also I would set realism to sliders to full. Best Wishes, Randy J. Smith [h3]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"[/h3]AMD XP 2100 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF3 64 MEG |WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"

Hi Randy / Stephen,Many thanks for your kind replies which are much appreciated.I have checked to ensure that my fuel settings in the FS2K2 menu are set to unlimited, (whiich they are! thank goodness!). but I think I have forgotten to manually enter the Fuel in the FMC! I didn't realise until tonight that you can do that manually, by simply entering the amount of fuel in tonnes manually. As it was set in the FMC automatically at start up, I didn't think twice unfortunately to check the fuel settings ! With the amount of crashes I've had, I think the airline would have gone bust!I hope this is what I have done wrong!Once again, many thanks,Best Wishes,Chris

Chris,Sorry to diappoint you, but I would be surprised if that was the problem. I have never entered fuel quantity in the FMC, and never had a crash like you were describing. The FMC calculates the fuel from the info it gets from other systems. As far as I know the FMC will never shut down an engine.I suggest you load a decent amount of fuel (say 50% in each tank) and don't use the "unlimited fuel" option. PIC is bypassing many standard FS2K2 functions, so you want to be sure on this.Furthermore, it would be helpful if you could provide screenshots of the overhead panel, the instrument panel and the FMC if you're well into the flight.Kind regards,Stephan Haashttp://vatsim.pilotmedia.fi/statusindicato...or=SVA1&a=a.jpg

Hi all-One thing we might want to look at is that silly uncommanded movement of control surfaces that happened a while back when PIC767 was adapted to FS2k2. If he is a new user he may not have the right settings/patch etc that fixed that problem in PIC767. I wish I could recall how I fixed it in my PC.Next time you encounter loss of control, try an pause the sim and bring up the EICAS on the lower screen that displays the position of your control surfaces. See if you have a control-surface fully displaced without being commanded by you or your yoke/stick/keyboard.Of course I am making the assumption whe you say "crash" you mean loss of control of the plane as opposed to the crash of Flight Sim program "bombing out".Tim_757 (kicking virtual tin)

Hi Stephan,Many many thanks.Just out of interest how do you load just 50% into each tank within PIC?I'll certainly send a screen shot the next time this happensBest Wishes,Chris

Chris,Start FS2Ksgo to menu Aircraft (second from left at the top)goto submenu fuelenter 50 in each percentage field (left column)click OKthat's it.In other words: loading fuel is a standard FS2K2 procedure.Kind regards,Stephan Haashttp://vatsim.pilotmedia.fi/statusindicato...or=SVA1&a=a.jpg

Hi Stephan,Excellent many thanks !!I've just succesfully managed to fly from Manchester Ringway (EGCC) to Palma (LEPA). I ended up setting the fuels tanks to 100%, (just to be safe !!), I used 63 Tonnes of fuel as I had to enter holding patterns at POS and then overhead LEPA due to excess holiday traffic!I was hoping to fly across the Atlantic to San Francsco but it looks as if I might run out of Fuel half way across the Atlantic, unless its possible to refuel in flight ! I think I need to find away round that!Once again, many thanks,Best Wishes,Chris

Chris,How much fuel did you use on your LGCC - LEPA flight? Do you use by any chance a non standard air file. Tried a PIC/Posky merge without the stndard merge program? A 767 should have a range of 5000 NM plus. You might be flying with a wrong air file.For the proper PIC/POSKY merge:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/DCForumID33/2632.htmlKind regards,Stephan Haashttp://vatsim.pilotmedia.fi/statusindicato...or=SVA1&a=a.jpg

Chris,What Flight Level were you flying at?Are your fuel settings in Lbs or Kgs?How long were you holding for?At what speed where you holding?Did you have flaps extended?These are all factors that can affect the Fuel Usage.I have flown BGI-GLA approx 4500miles using PIC and used approx 40000Kgs of fuel.Some of the guys on the forum have flown Sydney - San Francisco Non-Stop in Real Time using PIC. I think they loaded full fuel for this out of Sydney and it took approx 15 hours.Mark

Hi Mark, Stephan,Thanks for your help which is greatly appreciated.I have now done a succesul PIC / POSKY Merge and the results are superb!!!!!!!!!!!!!Fuel settings were correct depsite the inevitable holding patterns for LEPA at this time of year, holding at POS and MUROS.I am ready for my first ETOPS flight from EGCC to KEWR.Best WishesChrisEGBB