Use RTE 2.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/31917.jpgSelect RTE2 From the RTE1 Front Page.Enter KSTL/KLAX in the FROM TO Boxes.Go to the DEP/ARR page.Now we have RTE1 and RTE2 dep/arr porcedures shown.Select RTE 2 Departures and LINDY2 VIH TRANS RWY 30L.Programme the remainder of the route in the RTE 2 Page as normal.Go Back to the DEP/ARR page.Select the CIVET 4 ARR from the RTE2 ARR Procedures section.ACTIVATE - EXEC.This Makes RTE2 the active RTE.No Need to redo the PERF INIT or T/O REF DATA.

http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/31918.jpgSet the FMC Up as follows.Legs Page - Double Click CRI at LSK1 > Enter 223 at LSK 6 for inbound Radial.Fix Page LGA VORRange 2nm - Displays 2nm Range Ring From LGA VOR on the EHSIRange 3nm - Displays 3nm Range Ring From LGA VOR on the EHSICRI VOR043 Radial - Displays the 043 Radial FROM CRI VOR on the EHSI223 Radial - Displays the 223 Radial FROM CRI VOR on the EHSISet the MCP up as follows.Speed V2HDG 180Alt 5000ft.Set Nav 1 Radio up as followsCRI VOR FrequencyCRS 224Set NAV 2 Radio up as followsLGA VOR FrequencySet RMI to view VOR 2.Flying the DepartureClimb on runway HDG till 1500ft.Engage HDG SEL and Autopilot and fly HDG 180.Set Speed 230 Knots / FLCH to 5000ft.Engage/Arm LNAV.

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Engines to idle and a big honking forward slip to lose altitude. ;-)Oh, the passengers probably won't like that. Maybe request to descend in a one-lap hold at NURIT?Lee Hetherington (KBED)

:-)You will need a holding over NURIT as published, no question here... But let me see your setup before and during the approach - real pilots flying to LLOV are doing it in a few different ways...

Ooops on the INTC CRS bearing!!! I should have actually done it in the sim, I would have seem pretty quickly that 020 wasn't right...Ryan

F/O copies clearance, programs, then captain will verify the correct entry.

Fly raw data! Just set HDG BUG 180, L side CRI 223, R to LGA. HSI to VOR. Easy as pie.

Not being familiar with the local area, I'd ask atc for a hold until getting down to 5000 at NURIT too. I guess one more round about way would be to continue descending to 5000, maintain 5000 and carry out the approach and missed approach at 5000. Then get clearance for another approach, do the teardrop hold entry at NURIT. You're now at 5000 and set for a new approach. Don't know how ATC would like that one though. :-)

Scenario:you are inbound to EGLL.you are limited to CAT3a Approach.EGKK/EGSS/EGGW/EGHH are all below minima for this approach.you are advised by ATC to expect 20mins + holding in the stack for approach to EGLL.Then one of the runways at EGLL goes blocked and holding times increase substantially.You are approaching the minimum fuel scenario where you are required to divert, but all your alternates are below minima.WHAT DO YOU DO

Good one Ilan, still no full answer to it I see.

Yes, it is not an easy approach - I wish to know how you guys will do it (forget about the descent to NURIT issue, it is less important).

I still wonder...On takeoff if you are light, then if necessary would it be safe to increase pitch attitude to 20 degrees plus.I don't understand, on rotation could I go straight to i.e. 20 degrees pitch attitude so I don't exceed V2+25?Or would I wait till i.e. 500ft before I raise the pitch to 20 degrees?And in reference to the intercept headings, I don't understand it one bit, could someone help me please or add me to msn, I have much to learn still if anyone is willing for me to be their apprentice.add me [email protected] I am on msn messenger all the time.Thanks.Alex.

Alex,I have a Test Aircraft Cfg file that I use.It is setup to the exact ZFW of an empty 767 with a 2/0 crew on board.This is extremely light - 87000Kgs.On a full thrust take off I can get in excess of 28 degrees nose up to maintain V2+15.The VSI is off the scale when this light.I have been able to climb to a cruise Alt of 43000ft using this setup in less than 15mins.On rotattion, rotate at a steady 3 degrees per second to 8 degrees then once airborne adjust pitch to approx 18 degrees. If necessary increase pitch to maintain v2+15.For more info go to:www.smartcockpit.comwww.b767.org.ukboth sites have downloadable stuff to have a look at.

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