October 25, 200322 yr Hi,Of course, as the POSKY757 is now out, what we need is a MERGE!!I fired the new aircraft up in FS9 with Lonny's panel (didn't have the effects file yet, though), and all I can say is that she is a true beauty. Although, I have to say that the non-flexing wings are bit of a bummer, because the 757 looks mighty gracious in the air with its wings flexed a bit. Especially during the flare. At EFOU there's a possibility to stand 30 meters from the threshold, so I've observed a few 757s landing there :). Anyway, out of curiosity I decided to check their FDE as well. I took the bird out for a spin, and carefully calculated every possible speed from my real-world tables and charts for 757. My findings are that the performance doesn't match up. When doing an ILS approach, being fully configured and gliding down the aircraft was 3 degrees nose DOWN at Vref. So I was at least 5kts too slow, and still we were diving. So the aircraft attitude was at least 6 degrees "off". These kinds of things are an immediate booboo in my book. I also did multiple takeoffs, and noticed that the aircraft rotates way too early. With proper trim setting it rotates about 20 kts early by itself! Who said making FDEs was easy anyway :D. The feel of the aircraft is very heavy. Demands a LOT of control input in the air to make it roll and pitch. I have flown a level-D 757 sim and it was very docile and responsive. The feel of the POSKY757 is a lot heavier than the PIC767 fde. In all, the outside model of the aircraft is superb! I myself would have opted for the flexing wings instead of the "special" lights, but you can't have all :). The FDE issues I leave alone from now on, because I don't intend to use it anyway. Just thought to let you know of my findings, and interested to hear others'.Tero PPL(A)
October 25, 200322 yr I agree with you Tero, a merge would be great but I expect we will have to wait for PIC767 v2 before we can fly the POSKY 757 in FS9 with any satisfaction.Why I like exterior models I dont know, I guess I'm just a big kid! :)Regards,
October 25, 200322 yr I have been playing around using Iskander's FDE from the ifdg 752 and I must say the Posky bird flies much more by the numbers with good pitch on approach and a great flair upon landing. I have also experimented with the PIC .air file and it too allows for a very stable bird.I still haven't decided which FDE combo I will use as I'm testing all aspects of a given flight, but I can say that using Iskander's FDE is much much better then the one that accompanies the new Posky752 (in FS2002)Anyway off to fly some more.Regards,Van LatendresseYeodesigns/AFG GroupPanel/FDE Designer
October 25, 200322 yr HI. Does anybody wnow where to find a fuel flow chart for a 757-200.I understand that there are real 757 pilots here,mabey they can help me out.ThanksNebojsa
October 25, 200322 yr Yeah I had the same issue with nose down, very *flat* attitude on approach. Exterior is very nice of course. This is where Wade's talent would come in handy ;) [h4]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smithhttp://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/196432/winglets_lg.jpg Randy J Smith
October 27, 200322 yr Very strange, I also tried it and the 757 behaves normal from correct takeoff behaviour to 3 degrees nose up attitude during final. After a quick comparison of FS flight performance analyser data with FCOM data the 757 performs pretty good IMO.Nice for some circlings with Lonnys panel. Although I might also not use it often. Who can really stand the Microsoft default Autopilot routines ;)Mike
October 27, 200322 yr Author Hi Mike,Very interesting indeed. I tried several approaches, with several weights etc. and everytime the approach attitude was way off.There COULD be the same reason to this, as there was with IFDG's bird. That there are several air-files available by mistake ... ??Tero PPL(A)
October 27, 200322 yr Tero,not sure, could be one of the FS2004 mysteries. Some users in German forum report exactly your findings, some have no problems like me.Similar weird results appeared with the PSS 330 in FS2004. Some users have normal pitch attitude during landing with 4-5 deg nose up, while some, incl. an Airbus pilot, had no chance to save the bus from a stall during final. Some even reported they could significantly influence the pitch attitude by shifting the entries in the FS 2004 payload editor, while from settings in the aircraft.cfg this shouldn't have had an influence at all.???Mike
October 27, 200322 yr Hi Tero"The FDE issues I leave alone from now on, because I don't intend to use it anyway."Assuming that you tried it with the PIC Panel, what kind of "merging" did you? Just the electrical section over to the aircraft cfg file? I had trouble with the flap setting of the POSKY 757 (went from zero to 1 then to 15?)and concerning the second part of the quotation above: which airfile do you use?
October 27, 200322 yr Author Hi Ansgar,I tested the 757 in FS2004, and because there's not a functional PIC for it yet, I had to use Lonny Payne's freeware panel. Btw, it is a very good freeware panel, although of course no competition to PIC. So I really don't know how to merge it with PIC :(.I use the PIC767 fde for all my flights, because it is simply the best fde, and the only fde that should be used with PIC panel logic. Besides, it handles very similarly to the real 757. (I have only experience from a full flight sim, but anyway).Tero PPL(A)
October 27, 200322 yr Hi again TeroBut if you use the PIC FDE you have all the numbers and speeds of a 76 and just the smaller outer shape. But the 757 has a different climbing attitude (for example). Therefore I sticked to the Hannivort FDE (RR and PW one) and I am quite satysfied with that one.Notabene: I use the FS2002 only and maybe the FDE of the POSKY are not fully compatible (In their support forum they said: No Testing in FS2002 but maybe same good behaviour (not literally))
October 27, 200322 yr Author Ansgar,Yes, I am aware of all the differences between a 57 and a 67.The reason I'm using the PIC FDE and PIC numbers is because there is not a good enough FDE in the market, that would play well with PIC. I like to use PIC accurately with all the goodies, bells and whistles the aircraft incorporates. With a third-party FDE it is not possible.The 767 and 757 are close enough in flight characteristics, which is the reason I'm stuck with PIC fde AND IFDG visual model for the time being. I just completed my second test session with the POSKY FDE and all I can say is that it does not fly per real-world numbers. Not by far. Also, their manual has completely twisted figures for takeoff speeds and landing speeds compared to real-world ops. Along with the nonsense about FLAP40 settings etc. etc. But the visual model is stunning.I use FS2002 for all my PIC-flights of course. I tested the POSKY with FS9 of course.I will post my findings at the POSKY forum in a couple of minutes as well.Tero PPL(A)
October 28, 200322 yr TeroThe idea of using the PIC airfile is not bad, but: what ZFW do u use? If it
October 28, 200322 yr Author Hi Ansgar,I use 111.1 metric tonnes, which equals 245klbs. So I'm effectively using 767 data. I don't mind, the performance is so close anyway.But... on another note. I did post my findings in the POSKY forum, and the main FDE designer told me he was gonna look at it. Warren was being very courteous and professional, but then I also got #### thrown right at my face by some smartass Iknowitalls, who seem to enjoy the trust of the forum heads. So I'm done with POSKY. I have no interest in getting flamed, when I merely try to suggest improvements.Tero PPL(A)
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