no AIRACs at the moment ...

[Guest NAVData]

Dear NAVData-User,due a server hacking of my files no AIRACs (previous and the upcoming 0406) are available at the moment. The reason isn

[Guest Lenny Zaman]

is there any legal way of '*!

[Guest Bras]

Marcelo here, I am the editor of Vflight.org. Let me explain what happened resuming the situation or this will become a giant message.Since December last year access to Navdata.at has been blocked to all Brazilian users. I do not know the reason for this, but the website has obviously been unavailavle to all user in the Brazilian IP range.Because of this, Brazilian sites like mine, Aerovirtual.com.br and Voosimulado.com started to re-distribute the Airac Cycles themselves. We at Vflight.org have always hosted copies of the files ourselves, others link directly to the Navdata files which unlike the Navdata website (the main one) are in fact accessible from Brazil because they reside on a different server. Since this was brought here, I even gave access to some members of the Avsim staff to prove, through our site bandwidth usage, that we hosted these files and not linked them as Richard suggest in his message.I have tried to contact Richard before at Navdata.at regarding this situation, but the email bounced back with a deferred timeout error message. Since the website was blocked, I believed that emails from Brazil were blocked as well.Today Vflight.org received an email from Richard requesting removal of the files. We removed the files (which we originally downloaded from Aerovirtual.com.br) within minutes. I also replied to Richard's email but received no answer from him and was surprised that he ignored it, because if he had took time to read I don

[ulisses]

Ok guys,I'm Brazilian and I don't speak English properly, so please don't blame me.I know both sites: aerovirtual and vflight.Not sure why, but we can't access http://www.navdata.at/ from Brazil, so these sites always tried to share the updates with us. I understand that Richard is angry but not sure how serious is this if navdata is freeware, probably because these sites hadn't an authorization.Vflight has a download area where the files were stored, so no direct link to navdata.at and I saw credits to the author.Please don't blame all Brazilian (and world) community because one site did an error, maybe without knowing it was wrong.I'm very sorry when I read messages like this from Lenny (with such cultural knowledge about other countries) that Brazilian shouldn't be involved in aviation. Sorry Richard and I hope you analyze the facts.And it is my personal opinion.thanks,Ulisses

[Guest BillVC]

Bras, You could have made a post to have Richard contact you here in AVSIM, ... No? Yes?Then this would not be an issue. hmmm thoughts...

[Guest NAVData]

Hi Ulisses,i won

[ulisses]

Hi Richard,Thanks so much for the feedback, but I tried to add the IP and no luck, I still can't access navdata site (even crossing the fingers :))Probably your server firewall is blocking services for range 200.*.*.* (Brazil), I have a DNS answer, maybe that's why your IP tip isn't working.Thanks again,Ulisses

[Guest J_Niny]

Hi Richard,I also tried the "trick" and I had the same results of Ulisses. No acess to Navdata yet.Thanks for trying to help us.Jorge Niny

[Guest Lenny Zaman]

i never said brazilians shouldn't be involved in aviation....i said that people who want to be involved in aviation better learn to speak a 'decent' form of English, the standard language in aviation... i don't think that's too much to ask, after all we use it for alot more than just aviation...Personally, i am fully against the use of any other language than english over the radio... this sometimes creates a very disturbing and dangerous situation... Now that i read the official 'reasons' behind what happened i agree my first reaction, posted here, was a little over the top, sorry for that and you have my complete excuses for it. But nevertheless as Bill says... why not post a message in this forum...there were alot of other ways ....

[Guest NAVData]

Thanks for the feedback friends. I have written a mail to my ISP again now. Hope i get any answer about this problem. Keep you informed! Thanks for testing :-)Cheers,Richard

[Guest blueconcorde]

It doesn't work for me either.Using the IP or the URL, firefox gives net timeout error.It's clearly a IP blocking to 200.xxx.xxx.xxx, as at my university I have no problems to acess the site and download the AIRACs. Brazilian federal universities' IPs are not on 200.x.x.x range.Using public acess (200.x.x.x), the only way to acess the site is behind proxies.L

[Guest blueconcorde]

Result of "tracert www.navdata.at" on Windows XP Pro. X's to preserve privacy.Rastreando a rota para www.navdata.at [80.243.163.31]com no m

[Guest J_Niny]

Hi Richard,here is my tracert. Hope that helps.Rastreando a rota para www.navdata.at [80.243.163.31]com no m

[Guest blueconcorde]

Looks like the problem was solved.I'm now able to acess NavData from home (IP on the 200.x.x.x range).Thanks Richard and Navdata.at team,

[ulisses]

Hi,Here I still can't access the navdata site and I talked to 3 friends that can't access as well.Thanks,UlissesSao Paulo - Brazil