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Is there any English manual/directions?If I understand corect the postcript files don't need to be mirrored while the gerber need to be mirrored?Anyone to give me an approximate cost estimation.......Thanks in advanceTassos

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I too am looking for an english translation of the manual. If I can get it translated, I'll let you know! Where you asking about the cost of getting boards made? I am currently waiting to hear how much to get them etched and supplied with components for me to assemble. If I can find enough interest, I might be able to persuade my source to make the finished boards. These would be professionally done, since my source is actually a PCB manufacturer. Any interested, let me know.

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Count me in too - I am looking for the manual in English and a reasonably-priced U.S.-based source for the boards!Dave

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Yea you can count me too if the price is reasonable.What timeframe we are talking about?Tassos

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im making the boards myself... i can get the price per board... email me if you have questions...Ryan run@info.com.ph

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I haven't gotten a quote yet on the boards, but they are being made by a professional board builder. Will post here when I have more info.

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Wonderful idea. I too would be interested in what you find out. Is your board builder located in the US or Europe? Richard

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I am translating the manual right now... will probably be done in a week or 2... Work,work,work/ Olle Ramsberg

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Perhaps once you get it translated Olle, you could see if Dirk Anderseck could put a link to it on his FSBus site. That would be helpful to the rest of us and free you of be emailed repeatedly to send it to individuals.I was trying to get it translated, but, the only one that I knew that could translate was computer illerate. A direct translation doesn't work very well unless you can read it and understand the content.Please, please please keep us posted.Many thanks

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Wrenchca,No news yet from your board builder? Anyone know if FSBUS Key Controller supports mechnical rotary encoders? I read conflicting info on the website.Richard

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>Wrenchca, >>No news yet from your board builder? >>Anyone know if FSBUS Key Controller supports mechnical >rotary encoders? I read conflicting info on the website. It supports knitter-switch.com ones (the non-phase-shifted) and also normal rotary switches (that rotate freely, give some light surgery with some suitable sharp tool after opening the switch.. )The rotary switches need to have 4,8,12... positions since it is wired in series of four, so that you wire every 4th pin together - giving you a continuous pulse of 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4 when rotating clockwise, and 4,3,2,1,4,3,2,1 when counter-clockwise. FSBUS then figures out the turn direction from this.It also supports BCD-coded switches I think.But not phase-shifted encoders. Only those that have isolated pulses (pulse on pin A, B is silent, and vice versa)One can probably do some circuitry to incorporate the phase-shifted ones into fsbus as well, but I'd probably go with the BCD/rotary switch route instead. Those work well, I use them in my radio, even hacked the one concentric thing from two cheap rotary switches. You have seen the pic, but I'll just link to it anyway. http://tigert.gimp.org/vatsim/cockpit-stuff/knobs5.pnghttp://tigert.gimp.org/vatsim/cockpit-stuff/radioknobs.jpgAlso a pic showing the fun spaghetti wiring: :-)http://tigert.gimp.org/vatsim/cockpit-stuf...-magnetos3.jpegTuomas

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RichardL,No, I haven't any news yet from my board builder.:-( It was one of those "When you get a chance, could you??" deals. I"ll be checking in with him this weekend though. Will let you know as soon as I have info.

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Wrenchca,Hate to be a nuisance, but any word from your friend on the FSBUS units?Richard

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By the looks of it, I should have etched boards this weekend. Unfortunately, his operation has gone past the prototyping stage and cannot accomodate the type of components used in this design. He would have to totally redesign the board for doing the complete assembly. That being said, he has the negatives for all of the FSBUS projects except the servo and stepper.I have asked him if he could give me a price on each board and will post when I have it.

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I have the Protocol document translated and I'm working on main FSBUS COM III manual at the moment. Both are currently in OpenOffice.org format. I'll upload them later today and put a link here.The COM manual is still in very rough form but at least you have the words even if they're not in the right order :-)Andrew Luck18 miles SW EGSH

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What in the world is OpenOffice.org, and how will we view and print the manual?Richard

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OpenOffice.org is a free replacement for MS Office. It runs on Windows, Linux and Solaris. Their website is http://www.openoffice.org and in it's current version is a very capable product (and it's FREE, or did I already mention that :-)).I'll see if I can find someway to publish to pdf but it's going to slow me down a bit while I have a look.Andrew Luck18 miles SW EGSH

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Hi Andrew,Don't let me slow things up. I want to see that FSBUS document.If the software is free great. Maybe the pdf file would be nice sometime in the future. Thanks,Richard

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I've uploaded the protocol document to a website so that you can get to it. This is just a temporary arrangementAddress is http://mysite.freeserve.com/Littlebeck/Files/protocol.sxwI've also done an export to MS Word format, same location but .doc instead of .sxw. Can't promise what the formatting will look like in that one though.I've uploaded a very rough fsbus.sxw to the same place. There's a whole load still to do with this one though so I haven't got it into Word format yet.Hope these are useful.RegardsAndrew Luck18 miles SW EGSH

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Hi Andrew,The doc file doesn't seem to work fine. There is any converter for the sxw format to doc or another commmon format ? It's hard to me to download the OpenOffice since I have a 56k connection.Thanks !Cadu

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Just tried out the MSWORD file protocol.doc on another PC and it opens fine in Word 2000. Some of the formatting is lost but it's a readable document, which is my initial aim.I've now added some links on the front page of the site so access now is via http://mysite.freeserve.com/LittlebeckThe FSBUS document is fairly large so I'll do some more work on that before uploading as a Word file.Andrew Luck18 miles SW EGSH

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