Thanks Glenn,probably I will change to FS2004 someday. I'm looking forward for your email. Sebastain

Hi Peter, FSbus is not specific to any one type of aircraft, all it does is let you control & display data from within Flight simulator with switches, rotaries, pusbuttons, digital readouts, pots, servo's, vitually anything you can think of that lights up or moves, it's up to you the builder what radio or instrument panel you wish to mimic.What I was refering to is the router software itself, you can play with the router software & control things in flightsim with a vitual switch or rotary that you can define to control or display something, Dirk Has already mapped out alot of common things that we will want to setup in our pits, one of them is the Com1 Radio, If you install it & have a play you can get an idea of how it works without building a single circuit board, as you flick a virtual switch you can watch the value change in the router software & you will see flightsim respond accordingly.The latest 2.0 Beta version can be downloaded here:http://www.fsbus.de/e_index.htmlI was suprised the other day when I re-downloaded it only to find he has made changes to it as the file was much bigger then the first one I got hold of, so he is working hard on it & probably why we don't see him on the forums that much.Glenn.

Hi,yes, i am still working on it to make it as best as possible. The radios of standard fs are ready now. I have done a lot of finetuning to make it as fast as possible. The rotary increments and decrements are now routed parallel to fs and to the display. The display will show the change immediatly. The readback from fs is done in 50ms interval and if this readback differs from display, it is updated by fs value. This is only one example of many. I am now finetuning PM.Since my own cockpit grows more and more, i can implement the things and test it under "real" conditions. Next weekend, i will share a dutch simbuilder's meeting in Leiden. kind regards Dirk

Thanks for the update Dirk.Your hard work is appreciated.Cheers Clenn.

Thank you Dirkfor all your efforts to make the best for Fsbus :-)We are waiting the new version with all these you have improved and also with the new fine-tuning for PM!!Eddie ArmaosAthens-Greece

Glennyou're right, so i'll try to explain what i mean, as i have many hours in FsBus (almost a type-rating in Fsbus :-) )When i change the Stby Nav1 freq from Fsbus s/w using the "virtual" rotary switches there is no delay and almost in real-time the stby display change values in my FS in the main Pc.But.....!! I use a Redec (rotary decoder circuit) for use not a virtual rotary switch but a real rotary encoder to change the values and test. Redec circuit has for input the pins from rotary encoder and for output 2 pairs for connect them in 2 different positions in Fskey. So i use the the right turn output (for increase a value) and connect it to a Fskey. I declare it as a rotary 2. When i turn too slow the rotary encoder everything is ok. When i turn it too fast, i think that i don't loose values but even i have finished to turn the rotary the values in FS are changing more for 2-3 sec more. As i can understand the FsBus has a "buffer" and sends commnads to FS with FIFO method (First In - First Out). So Fs2002, or Fsuipc or something else can not accept fast changes!! Or i'm doing something wrong.In the other hand, if i will declare the redec's output as a switch when i turn fast the rotary it loose almost all the values in FS.Anyway, i know that FsBus does not support yet rotary encoders, but as it is an itreasting point for us we are looking how we can handle this to make more realistic the feeling of these knobs when use them for change values to Radios or MCP etc. I know that there is some other rotary switches like Knitter or Alps, but as i had read before some weeks in this forum, many people said that they have the same problem when you turn them fast ---> they loose "clikcs"Thanks anyway, if there is anyone that has used with success rotary encoders with any type of rotary decoder, please send a new post or contact me private in [email protected] a lot....Eddie ArmaosAthens-Greece

Eddie, I understand your problem, however are you looking at the digital STBY readout on Flight Simulators NAV1 radio, there will be a delay here, or are you looking at the digital readout on the FSBus Digital STBY Readout, It actually will not matter that FS catches up later as this is not important if you know what I mean.*Added as an after thought*What we are trying to do is build a complete hardware radio, what happens on this panel is important, I don't think you will acheive the desired result if you only go halfway & try to build a radio controller i.e. just the knobs & buttons part of it to control the radio in FS on the screen, there will allways be some delay here.Glenn.

Glennof course this is the point, we are saying the same but......, there is a "but"When the subject is the Nav radio we don't have a problem when it will stabilazed in FS after 2-3 sec and will tune the new Vor after it, ..... so what?But when we want to tune the HDG or the Alt, the delay-time that Fs2002' autopilot take the new command, may be "critical" (i.e in approach phase) and any missed values between the Fsbus's display and FS2002's display they want also extra time to processJust this, nothing really serious. I don't want to have the real simulation feeling in my home-cokpit construction with freeware software and with a not expesive hardware !! I'm just looking for the best solution to control with FsBus my MCP, EFIS, NAVs values in the faster time!! (And as the MCP and Efis are in PM the problem until the new version is bigger :-) )BTW i saw another post from you about Knitter switches. Obviously you have test them right? What is the feeling with these and Fsbus? Do they have a delay in fats turns? How do you declare them in Fsbus, like Rotary2? How do you order them and from where?ThanksEddie ArmaosAthens-Greece

Eddie have you played with any values here in the FSIF.INI# Lvl, Name ID Mode Offset Type Opt flags scan mul divMaybe changing the scan value may help.I think the Scan might be a value in milliseconds but I am guessing.OK I understand the problem better now, I did not realise you are using PM, Dirk has advised he is currently working on this part of the project today in another thread on this forum, I am sure he will make it work as you wish.I would imagine that if you built the MCP as an FSBus unit like the radio's there would not be much delay.I have not built my key controller here yet so I have not got a full working system as such, I have only built output boards to date,display & LED, so I have not fully played with the system, you are probably ahead of me.I purchased with a group on the forum that was organised by rickalty (Richard Alty) he sent them to me from the U.S. after he received the bulk order, they are available from somewhere in Europe.Here is the home page of the manufacturer:http://www.knitter-switch.com/They are defined as Rotary2 type.Glenn.

>I have not built my key controller here yet so I have not got>a full working system as such, I have only built output boards>to date,display & LED, so I have not fully played with the>system, you are probably ahead of me.>>I purchased with a group on the forum that was organised by>rickalty (Richard Alty) he sent them to me from the U.S. after>he received the bulk order, they are available from somewhere>in Europe.So, is there anyone who has tested these rotary switches in "real-enviroment" : with FsBus, Fs200X and maybe with PM? Is there any delays or missed clicks? Please advice!! :-zhelpI have spend many Euros for unused things and i'm in the begging!!! (I will have a big problem from my wife with all these :-hang )Thanks GlennEddie Armaos