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Advice request on Ti4400 drivers for Win98SE

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Hello all,I purchased a Creative GeForce Ti 4400 today - what a nightmare. Of course the drivers included were awful (stutters, lockups, corrupt gauges etc etc) Trouble is I can't make any other drivers work at all, even after flushing out all Detonator references in the system and registry.I am aware of the 40.41 drivers but these are for WinXP only, and no! I'm not getting XP which is not good for developers or musicians (won't run Cubase too well). I tried the Nvidia latest (30.90 I think) and these crash the system.12.41's which ran perfectly with the GeForce GTS2 won't even recognise the card.Please advise before this becomes a "wit's end" post! Thanks.Athlon 1.4 gig512 SD RamVia LatestSb Live (works perfectly with GTS2)Win98SE Rob Young

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Look in nVidida's achieve and download the det 29.42's. That's what I've been using the past couple of weeks (yes, I know my sig says, 40.401, but I got rid of those within 10 minues, as they where buggy as hell. :-) ) The 29.42's are WHQL and seem very stable.Ryan-Flightpro08 :-coolVATSIM Pilot/ControllerZLA ARTCC Controller 1 (C-1)SAN TRACON Lead [link:www.taxiwaysigns.com]Taxiwaysigns.com Scenery Designer-----------------------------My "Home Made" System Specs:Intel Pentium 4 2.2GHz ProcessorTurbo Gamer ATX Mid-Tower with 420W Power SupplyEPoX 4G4A Motherboard with Intel 845G ChipsetVisiontek XTASY GeForce4 128MB Ti4600 (Det 40.41 Drivers)512MB PC2100 DDR RAM40GB Matrox 7200RPM Hard DriveWindows XP Home Edition*No CPU or GPU Overclocking*3dMark2001SE Score: 11298

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Rob - I believe the most stable GF4 drivers are the 29.42's. You should have no driver-related issues with those. You might want to use Detonator Destroyer to clean out the remnants of the old drivers before loading in the new ones. See http://www.guru3d.com/detonator-destroyer/ for info and a download link. If you have a crash or lockup with the 29.42's I'd look next at the power supply specs. Any PSU rated at less than 300W, or any PSU with poor voltage regulation, becomes a suspect when a previously-stable system continually crashes after installing a GF4.TripNorthwood 2.2a at 2.72Ghz Abit TH7II-R512MB Samsung 40ns PC800Gainward 64MB GF4 Ti4200 300/57030.82's DX8.1 WinXP ProInwin case / Enermax 431W PSU3DMark2001SE = 13089http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4330740

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Thanks for the advice. I did take the precaution of running detonator destroyer, and I've got the current drivers working ok. Unlike the 12.41's which I think are still the fastest drivers around, the current batch of Det drivers won't tolerate Fast Writes on my system. Enabling Fast Writes got me 50% better frames rates before.Also I notice the 30.82 drivers (it wasn't 30.90) won't let me adjust mip map levels in Geforce tweak, hence mipmapping gives that ghastly mush of blurred textures.It does amaze me that after years of tweaking their drivers, and being a huge corporation, Nvidia still can't come up with absolutely rock solid, efficient, fast drivers which never lock up or give artefacts, mushy scenery and blurred mip maps.Cheers,Rob

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Good show. I'm glad it all ended well. Now you can get down to enjoying the new card. You might want to consider switching over to RivaTuner for the tweaks though. It'll work on the 30.82's and has continuing support.Trip

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I do not think Geforce tweak supports drivers from 29.60 on, Rivatuner should work. You may have to run the LODBiasFix on the NVDD32.DLL before you can set a negative LOD.Kurt M

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Thanks all for further advice. Though disappointed by frame rates (only a little increase), there's no doubt the system can take a lot more thrashing with the Ti 4400, and I notice I can enable detailed textures and 60%+ ATC without grinding to a slide show. (As you can imagine, smooth control is a must for me).I didn't know Geforce tweak couldn't affect recent drivers - I'll try the Riva Tuner plus the dll fix. If I can switch off FSAA and get decent LOD bias in the mipmapping I think that will bring frame rates up to acceptable levels.Must admit things are looking up - but as others have pointed out, these new cards perform better with 2.5 gig CPU's and above. Thanks again!Rob

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I have the MSI TI4400 card and find the 28.32 drivers to be a tad faster and they don't cause any known problems. System is an AMD 2100 overclocked to 1.8/2200.Elmer Smith

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Right on Rob. Jumping from a ATI 7200 64MB DDR VIVO card to a GeForce4 128MB Ti4600 actually didn't make much of a difference on my old P4 1.3GHz system with FS2k2 (made a huge difference with Counter-Strike and other software though.) Then, a few months later I built a whole new system (who's specs are below) and transferred my GF4 into there. My FPS went up about 70-85%. FS2k2 loves CPU and RAM. :-)Ryan-Flightpro08 :-coolVATSIM Pilot/ControllerZLA ARTCC Controller 1 (C-1)SAN TRACON Lead [link:www.taxiwaysigns.com]Taxiwaysigns.com Scenery Designer-----------------------------My "Home Made" System Specs:Intel Pentium 4 2.2GHz ProcessorTurbo Gamer ATX Mid-Tower with 420W Power SupplyEPoX 4G4A Motherboard with Intel 845G ChipsetVisiontek XTASY GeForce4 128MB Ti4600 (Det 40.41 Drivers)512MB PC2100 DDR RAM40GB Matrox 7200RPM Hard DriveWindows XP Home Edition*No CPU or GPU Overclocking*3dMark2001SE Score: 11298

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