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hi there i no that these panels are similar and i was wondering if anyone has succesfully merged the A320 panel with posky's A330. i have searched the pss forum and was unable to find anything that was of any help.

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yes ive read it and all the other ones but note that i said they were of no help. they keep getting cut off by the pss team, if someone can work out how to merge pic/posky, dreamfleet/ariane etc. surely they must be able to do the a320 and the posky plane

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Hi,The A320 has different FMC setups, so it WONT work with the 330. Sorry.But there is light in the end of the tunnel. We are considering an A330 derivative, but other commitments prevent it to be out soon.Keep your fingers crossed..with enough demand it will come!Johan[A HREF=http://www.phoenix-simulation.co.uk]Phoenix Simulation Software[/A]-----http://www.people.zeelandnet.nl/johdUnofficial PSS Website

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just out of interest what have you got planned for the near future i know that you will soon be releasing the dash but what after that

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Too me this is a really sad answer from the PSS team. I've merged the 767 PIC with Posky 767 and with other 757's and they were very supportive of this. To me the PSS is just a panel and shouldn't be looked at as offering help to a competitor.I'm sure it's possible, sure, somethings may be off, but I bet you can make it work almost as good as if it were made to be in a 330.

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thanks for the reply i agree with you, dont get me wrong i think that the pss work is great. but to me anyway the team needs to take a new approach and realise that this is a community and everyone is in it to help each other out. i still think that your products are top notch!

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Well after reviewing the PSS forum and realizing they "Moderate" every post (Must be a reason for that), (don't want to look bad) I can see they are very unwilling to help people put their panel in other planes even after they have purchased it. The line "It is a different plane and therefore will not work" is BS!That's their way of saying, we want you to buy more of our stuff after you have already given them enough of your money.I'll get this working and email you my results.I'll be doing the same thing with the 744 in the Meljet.

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>Well after reviewing the PSS forum and realizing they >"Moderate" every post (Must be a reason for that), (don't >want to look bad) I can see they are very unwilling to help >people put their panel in other planes even after they have >purchased it.While I would certainly encourage you to pursue a solution on your own, I think your remarks are out of line. What you've said is akin to me buying a new Mercedes and then asking the manufacturer to assist me with removing the engine so that I can install it on my custom-built go-cart.You need to realize that in order to accomplish what they do with their panels, they require certain characteristics to be present in the flight model and the flight dynamics. Everything has been engineered as a "matched set". If the product was intended to be sold as "just a panel" - it would have been marketted as such and it likely wouldn't have a tenth of the features it has now.PIC is no different. It has the same constraints on flight dynamics as the PSS product. It is only by the good grace of one, Lee Hetherington, that he invested his own time in bringing POSKY and PIC together under one umbrella. But that took work and alot of trial and error. Certainly, it was not the PIC team's responsibility (or Wilco's) to provide support for such a configuration or to assist Lee in that effort.PSS is a business, and you can't even *BEGIN* to fathom how busy those guys are. If they tried to support every "custom go-cart" setup around, you would never see a product roll out their doors. They have enough on their plate as it is with people clammoring for Dash 8's and Concordes - why not cut them some slack, do as Lee did, and take up the initiative to find the answer on your own and rely on the community for support in building your custom go-cart instead of PSS.Cheers,J

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The reason those questions are being cut off is that they've been answered in length too many times already and a little looking back would get you all the info you need: the answer is "NO it is not possible".

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PSS never designed it to work on an A330. If they had, it would work with the POSKY 330 as well.An A320 series aircraft is just too different from an A330 to compare adapting an A320 panel to an A330 to using a 767 panel with a 757.757 and 767 are quite close in things like weight distribution and performance, 320 and 330 are a lot further apart.It would be like using the Dreamfleet 737 panel in a POSKY 767 (for example) and complaining it doesn't work correctly... Do people complain about that? I've never heard them...Or using the PSS 747 panel in a 707 (well, they both have 4 engines so they must be the same right?).

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Try this using the http://www.avsim.com/posky/files/fde/A330.zip FDE.(Flaps.0)type=1span-outboard=0.500000extending-time=20.000000system_type=1flaps-position.0=0.000000,0.000000flaps-position.1=7.998491,0.000000flaps-position.2=15.996982,0.000000flaps-position.3=23.995472,0.000000flaps-position.4=31.993963,0.000000flaps-position.5=39.992454,0.000000(fuel)Center1= 0.000, 0.000, -4.000, 5000.000, 0.000LeftMain= -7.000, -37.983, 0.000, 12000.000, 3.000RightMain= -7.000, 37.983, 0.000, 12000.000, 3.000delete the AUX. tanksRegards,RicardoEHAM

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why doesn't anyone out there seem to be making a good A340, I wonder??I would have thought that would be a very hot aircraft to make??Sunil>The reason those questions are being cut off is that they've >been answered in length too many times already and a little >looking back would get you all the info you need: the answer >is "NO it is not possible". Sunil Mulay

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Hey Sunil,well, there is one company which is working on A340 for FS02. Here is their URL:www.aviograsf.com.And than there is another company, working on stand-alone simulator of A343. Now, as I understant it, this should be something similar to PS1 in regards of simulation of the "real" thing. This product should be up, during 2nd quater of 03. I can not wait. :-jumpyThier URL:http://www.anticyclone.be/experience.htmlAlso, someone has already gave us the explanation why, Airbus is not that favourite among sim. developers. Their cockpits are very similar and many people are not willing to pay for almost the same products. The comonality is great thing in real life, but very bad in sims. Cheers,Andrej Lippay :-wave

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I Feel I must defend our (PSS) position here -------------------------------------------------------------------->they "Moderate" every post (Must be a reason for that), (don't want to look bad) --------------------------------------------------------------------yes we moderate posts, It's a private forum and we are quite entitled to do so.. The REASONS we do though might interest you ??#1 Repeated questions where answers already appear in the forum cost the PSS team a lot of Time, This takes us away from tha actual job of developing (which leads me to the second reason) #2 Repeated questions like WHEN IS DASH RELEASED ? Again cost us time to answer, The current information on release dates will be made available once WE KNOW when it will be #3 Misleading or abusive posts will be deleted, no reason necassary#4 Argumentative posts will not be tolerated. The forum is meant to be for "Support" ----------------------------------------------------------------->I can see they are very unwilling to help people put their panel in other planes even after they have purchased it. -----------------------------------------------------------------This is quite true, BUT for very good reason.. We Cannot support the use of our products when used with 3rd party software. It was never developed to work with them, it was not tested to work with them and It may not be possible at all .. PSS cannot be help responsible or waste time answering support questions related to other Developers work.However, If a user develops a simple and Fault Free way of using our products with 3rd party software then we will HAPPILY Post the information but we cannot spend the extra time needed for developing these methods ourselves as there are many more people waiting for our current products. ---------------------------------------------------------------->That's their way of saying, we want you to buy more of our stuff after you have already given them enough of your money.----------------------------------------------------------------Totally unfair in the context it was written. We DO want you to "buy more stuff" But Our way of saying this is to develop New, Better and more advanced products instead of spending a lot of man hours developing patches for 3rd part software. -----------------------------------------------------------------I'll get this working and email you my results.-----------------------------------------------------------------PLEASE do so, and when you do post the information on PSS Forum. we will Gladly issue the information to other users.. Finally..and in the interests of fairness ... has anyone actually suggested to Meljet or Posky that THEIR PRODUCT doesnt work with the PSS Panels ??

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Remember the good old Simubuild A340 ?With some tweaks in the aircraft.cfg it works fine with the great PSS Panel. (Flaps/Engine Positions)Please remember that in real world you are allowed to override/cheat the settings in the MCDU. In other words you can input wrong data to get a special result (within limits).With the A340 & PSS I cheat the MCDU at some points and I get fine results and can live with that.As long as there is no serious A340/380 Panel available in the market I don't see another way here. PSS has set a new level of Panel-Quality, still unreached by others.Maybe Project Magenta is an Option, but it's different.They still miss the Upper-Panel/PB-Logic and a main Panel in general.PM have another customer target.If I look a bit into the near future I also miss a GMax Model of the A380. Even the great freeware-groups don't touch the A380.I hope someday the Airbus-World will make a step forward and catch up with the Boing-Market where everything seems already been done.=)

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Well, I have the panel working fine in a 330 and a 340, no I'm going to put it in a 380 ;-)

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thumbs up and well said dude!!!i wonder what it is that makes people think they can expect anything from a developer.....just be glad they're there,buy the stuff if you like it,and don't if you don't..but stop asking these silly merge questions!!!!!!PSS,keep it up guys!!!Tom van der Elst

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