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Hello,I know this is WAY late reaction. . .but I just tried installing Airport 2000 with the flatten provided by a user in this forum. (He talked about it about a month or two ago?) Anyway, all works wonderfully except that there are no textures on the runways. The displaced thresholds appear, but not as soon as the main runway starts, the ground is blank. Here's a screenie of my problem:It appears to be texture related, but I don't have a clue where the textures could be hiding. After installing only the scenery into a "dummy" directory and moving ALL the files to FS2002 directory and comparing it with my FS2000 installed copy (that works correctly) all the files are there and the sizes are the same. I don't know. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!-drewBTW, I threw in some piccy's of some KBOS scenery I found in my old FS2000 directory that works really well in FS2002. . .I've made an AFCAD file for it and will begin working on overlays soon.

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Here's the list of the textures that should be copied to the fs2002 main texture folder from fs2000 main texture folder (I've A2K vol1 and vol2 in this list):TRWY-D.RWYArwy25.rwyArwy27.rwyArwy27l.rwyArwy27r.rwyArwy30.rwyArwy33l.rwyArwy33r.rwyArwy-a.rwyArwy-b.rwyArwy-c.rwyArwy-d.rwyHroad.bmpL-858B.R8L-858B-N.R8L-858L.R8L-858L-N.R8L-858R.R8L-858R-N.R8L-858Y.R8L-858Y-N.R8Trwy22r.rwyTRWY-A.RWYTRWY-B.RWYTRWY-C.RWYApron.r8Arwy31l.rwyArwy20.rwyArwy22l.rwyArwy22r.rwyArwy25l.rwyArwy25r.rwyAgenrwy.rwyArwy31r.rwyArwy36.rwyCGENRWY.RWYCrwy24l.rwyCrwy24r.rwyCrwy25l.rwyCrwy25r.rwyCrwy26l.rwyCrwy26r.rwyCRWY28.RWYCRWY-A.RWYCRWY-B.RWYCRWY-C.RWYCRWY-D.RWYRed.bmproad.bmpTGENRWY.RWYTrwy25l.rwyTrwy25r.rwyTRWY27.RWYWhite.bmpYelBlack.bmpYellow.bmp

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I'm not sure I understand....you'd have to do a minimum install of FS2000 in addition to installing FS2002.Do you have both installed?

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I actually do have an old copy of FS2000 installed. . .but I found a way to "trick" the installer into installing it in whatever directory I want. In case anyone wants to know how I did this, here it is. Create a directory structure on an available HDD (x):x:FS2000 Scenery Texture pilots Copy any available (fs2000 or FS2002) scenery.cfg to the x:FS2000 directory.Install from the A2K CD, and select this bare FS2000 directory to install to. Select only the airports. It will then install everything to this directory as if you just "unzipped" it. Then you can move the new directory SceneryAirport 2000 vol 1*to your prefferred FS2002 addon scenery directory. Move all the .bgl files from the FS2000Scenery to the FS2002Scenery directory, and the all the textures from the FS2000Texture to the FS2002 main texture directory. Discard the scenery.cfg file form the dummy x:fs2000 directory. You can also discard the pilots directory as it just adds some flights. Add the scenery in FS2002 and it should appear like normal. . .if you did everything correctly. Then if you want to remove the static and dynamic aircraft, look for .bgl files in the individual A2K scenery directories that have *dyn* and *sta* in the names. Not all the sceneries have these .bgl files, but most do. This same process worked for A2K vol 2. However, I really only am using JFK and MIA from the two volumes. I checked all the sceneries anyway and noticed at Nice Cote de Azur and EDDF, there is some texture bleed through. Also, for JFK there are exclude and afcad files available that make it so there is no texture bleedthru or bumpiness. Anyway, if anyone has any more specific questions, I'll try and help if I can. -drew

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Thanks for the tutorial; I think I can manage to get it to work as you outlined.

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Hey! You found my Boston scenery :-) Yup, it still works. I have a completed general afcad file and a somewhat done radius method afcad if anyone wants them, just email me...Glad you like the scenery though....I uploaded it to flightsim.com like two years ago, but never uploaded it here. I'm thinking about uploading it here (wiht a new readme and afcad file). Whatcha think?Also, what's the flatten switch for your JFK?Thanks!-Corey Leigh

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Please do...I was just looking at your scenery last night! I'd never seen it before now. I got to thinking, "all she needs is some AFCAD tracks" and she'll be good a golden!Definitely upload it here to AVSIM with AFCAD tracks!J

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How are the frame rates with these A2K v1 and v2 in FS2002? Any better than v3?

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wow! I'm off to download that scenery now!if you could, can you mail me the afcad file at redstorm_kg@yahoo.com? Thanks!

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Hey Jas, send me an email at cleigh@udel.edu and I'll send it on over. It'll be quicker than me trying to upload it to Avsim (I haven't uploaded anything in well over a year to any site, and I never got the trick of avsim...) :-)-Corey

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Sir Sanka where have you been? You have revived my simming career with your AP2000 fixes!!. I'm in need of some afcad files for any of the these sceneries. Could you or anyone point me in the right direction. jahngi@prodigy.net

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One minor omission. You need to make sure you have a copy of world.vis in your X:FS2000SCENERY folder, or the CD installer for A2K Volume 1 will barf on you.So run the CD installer, then run the FS2000 patch, and copy as above.

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Frame rates are really good for me (minus all their static and dynamic aircraft). I am really only using KMIA from v2 and KJFK from v1, but in each of these I have my fps locked at 18 and always get 15-18 when in the aircraft. When outside looking around it may drop to 10 or so, but that doesn't bother me because you don't fly from outside the plane! BTW, I did fly a circuit at A2K's EDDF in a PIC/POSKY and FPS was the same, 15-18 in cockpit, 13-15 while "looking around" from the outside. -drewSystem:98seXP1800+ Soltek SL75DRV4 mobo (266 FSB)512M crucial DDR Leadtek A250 Ultra (G4ti4600) (det 30.32 drivers, I think)80 gig WD 800JB (8MB seek cache)SB Audigy

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I didn't run any patches, and I didn't have a world.vis in the Scenery folder. . .and it still seemed to work fine for me. I swear, these things have a mind of there own!-drew

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It may be Wilco published numerous "editions" of the original CD installer. Without world.vis, I would get "Flight Simulator 98 was not detected in the specified folder." - and it would abort.Contrast that with Volume 2 which installed without a hitch for me, but another user here couldn't get the CD installer to go at all without jumping some hoops. Go figure.Oh well ;-) It's up and running now. With some flatten polys added, this stuff works pretty well.JPS. BTW, I can't remember, but is that a construction zone at JFK where all the "dirt" textures are?

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Hi SirsankaThanks for the info on the files....As per someone else's enquiry do yo need to install FS2000 as wellfor the textures? Thanks for the replyOpsGoon

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No, see the instructions in post #4.I used them and they installed correctly. If you know how to manually install scenery, it's simple to just cut the scenery from the temporary installation location and paste it in your main Scenery folder. The same goes for the Textures also.

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WorkingstiffThanks for the reply but I get some buildings that look like JFK from A2 v1 but rest look like the others What did you mean by installling like this?A2 v.1......scenery.............textureIf this is correct then thats what I did?I cant help but think I need the FS2000 files to?John

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John,If you followed the instructions above you would START with a directory structure that looks like the following:FS2000.....Scenery.....TextureWhat you do is create a folder called FS2000 and make two subfolders within the FS2000 folder called Scenery and Texture. You also need to copy a scenery.cfg file to the FS2000 directory.Now when you run the A2K install routine; make sure you point it at the FS2000 directory. It will ask twice to confirm that you have the right folder selected.After installation your directory structure will look like the following:FS2000.....Scenery..........Airport 2000 Vol. 1.....TextureNow copy the Airport 2000 folder (with all its subfolders) to your FS2002 Scenery directory. Also copy the contents of the Texture folder to the main texture folder in FS2002 and you are set. You do not need the scenery.cfg and scenery.bak files in the FS2000 directory.Then just go to the Scenery Library within FS2002 and add the airports you want. I only wanted to use JFK so I only added that and deleted the others.

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>John, >>If you followed the instructions above you would START with >a directory structure that looks like the following: >>FS2000 >.....Scenery >.....Texture >>What you do is create a folder called FS2000 and make two >subfolders within the FS2000 folder called Scenery and >Texture. You also need to copy a scenery.cfg file to the >FS2000 directory. >>Now when you run the A2K install routine; make sure you >point it at the FS2000 directory. It will ask twice to >confirm that you have the right folder selected. >>After installation your directory structure will look like >the following: >>FS2000 >.....Scenery >..........Airport 2000 Vol. 1 >.....Texture >>Now copy the Airport 2000 folder (with all its subfolders) >to your FS2002 Scenery directory. Also copy the contents of >the Texture folder to the main texture folder in FS2002 and >you are set. You do not need the scenery.cfg and >scenery.bak files in the FS2000 directory. >>Then just go to the Scenery Library within FS2002 and add >the airports you want. I only wanted to use JFK so I only >added that and deleted the others.I do all that but put the world.vis file into the scenery folder first cause the auto-install will not work without it and all I get qhen selecting airports only is the .dyn files inside the main scenery folder? Any help?

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Jase439, did you get my email? If not, could you (or anyone else) please send me the flatten and exclude command lines for JFK at efisher2@cfl.rr.com Thanks guys.

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Are you specifying the installation directory correctly?This directory should be the root FS2000 folder, for example: e:FS2000 and not the scenery subdirectory.I haven't had to copy over the world.vis file and I've done this many times now and I've never had a problem installing these sceneries.

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