Hello all,I have an Intel D875PBZ 800 FSB motherboard with a P4 3.2 ghz processor. My question is what should the temperature be reading? After booting in to BIOS from a night off and leaving it sit for 10 minutes or so, it's up to 53 centigrade or 127F. Is this normal? Where do most people see their temps sitting? This is the hardware monitoring screen in the BIOS and, again, it starts from a quiet system just booting in to the BIOS.Thanks much,sj

My P4 is about 50 degrees at idle and 60 degrees at full load..

I guess I'm running a bit cooler here with a similar system. I have a variable speed fan on the mobo, and for the most part I'm seeing between 35 and 40 degrees. However, I have no less than 4 fans and a large case in this sucker specifically to avoid heat problems so that may be why I'm slightly cooler. I've been told that up to about 65 degrees is pretty reasonable, although as an Avionics Tech, I don't like to see most chips getting above 55.Hope that helps a bit.Glenn

That's interesting. The temp mgmt. doc at Intel's site reports 70c for max. The company that sold the machine says they're seeing 40c in their lab and asked to send me a new chip/hs/fan. I wonder, with all else equal, what the fps difference would be for a 15deg. temp difference?Thanks for the reports,sj

OK, 70 might be fine. When I went back and looked at my data, I had it backwards for temp limits. It is MINUS 55C and PLUS 125C, but remember those are for specialized (relatively so) chips going into Avionics equipment, so 70 sounds reasonable. In any event, I'd get as much cooling as I can, so if they are offering you the extra fan and chip replacement, go for it. Yes, overheated or just hot chips can cause big headaches. They can slow your system down, and even cause freezes (odd term for something that happens to a computer because of a heat problem :-) ). Probably half the issues with todays machines are heat related. I'd go for it.Good luck!Glenn

The rig in my sig sits at -24 / -28 degrees at idle and -17 / -12 at full load running FAH Cores. This is LCD temp. MBM shows CPU temp about 5-7 degrees warmer so around -21 at idle and -7 full load.My 3.06 P4B runs 46 degrees at idle and around 53-56 under a full FAh core run. This is with the stock Intel HSF and a FSB of 150 Mhz for an effective clock of 3.45 Mhz.You sound fine. I wouldn't worry. Whats the ambient room temp? That can make a tremendous difference also.Bobby

Mine's about the same. I noticed that the ASUSPROBE monitor program alarm threshold will not go below 67C. So that temeparture must be okay.RegardsHoward

Now I'm really worried! I just run the 3dMark's and Mark03 shows a measly (and unacceptable, I think) 2150 and Mark01SE reads in the los 9000's. These can't be right, can they? I think there's a problem somewhere as I thought I was getting very nice h/w, minus advanced cooling, super-duper power supply, and RAID. Don't these scores s*ck?3dMark is also showing my frontside bus at 200Mhz when I thought it was 800 FSB (BIOS, computer receipt, etc.). Does 3dMark show this right or is it something else.Holy slowness, Batman!Thanks,sjMPC 3.2Ghz P4, 800FSB, HT enabled, 1GByte PC3200/400Mhz RAM, ATI Radeon 9800Pro, 256MB, 120GB 7200RPM SATA HD w/8Mb cache

SJ,That machine needs some serious attention it sounds like from those numbers....Try this first. Defrag your HD. It's preferable to use something such as Diskkeeper but even the stock windows Defrag is better than nothing. Go into your display prop. and set everything to high performance and AA and AF to application preference.Close that out and open up task manager and close all processes that you dont need such as AntiVirus software, print spoolers, cd burning apps etc.Fire up 3dMark2001se and set your resolution to 1024x768x32, no AA. Disable title shots between tests and remember you only need to run the first 4 test to obtain a score.Hit the benchmark button and sitback. With those settings that machine should easily see the highside of 15-16K in 2001 and 5500+ in 3DMark03.Get back to me with your results and we cn go from there.BobbyP.S. Your FSB will show as 200Mhz and not 800. This is becuase the P4 performs 4 clock cycles at a time. 4 x 200Mhz = 800Mhz FSB. Your fine don't worry. :)

I am only running a P-4 2.8GHz with a 800 MHz FSB and Radeon 9800 Pro. My temps are 108F for the chip and 102 for the mother board. I have six case fans, two intake in the front, two exhaust in the rear, one side and one top fan. Also have two fans in the powersupply.As you can guess, the case was designed for the AMD chips.Terry

Wow! I know I wasn't dreaming and that the numbers earlier were true as I had run them multiple time, but...3DMark01SE - 17,8313DMark03 - 5801Wow! I have no idea how the stuff I did would make that big a difference. I defraged with Norton SpeedDisk. I switched the D3D cntrl panel settings from their MS defaults (6/16 AA...) to appl. pref. I stopped a couple of processes that started with CC and that was it. Norton was running but disabled. Ghost was up. I didn't feel like stopping the XP restore service so that was up. BTW, all this is with no windows paging file; I heard it was better to do that when you have 1Gb of mem. I forgot to remove the desktop backround when I ran 01SE but removed it for 03.Now, if switching AA... to appl. preference is what did it, then there's no benefit for FS2004. I'm so glad that someone knowlegeable took an interest in my case...thank you!The only fans I have is one on top of the processor (comes with the proc.) and one of the back panel seperate from the power supply. Plus vents in the front panel. Can Bobby or someone recommend a specific cooling upgrade and maybe how to put it in?This is too weird. I thought maybe I had a bad video card or something. BTW2, 3DMark01SE read 351MHz for VGA memory clocking and 378 for VGA core. Are these normal?I'm off to Dallas on business for the week. No PC but definite internet access. Thanks again.sj

>Wow! I know I wasn't dreaming and that the numbers earlier>were true as I had run them multiple time, but...>3DMark01SE - 17,831>3DMark03 - 5801Now those numbers are more representative of what your machine is capable of!!>Wow! I have no idea how the stuff I did would make that big a>difference. I defraged with Norton SpeedDisk. I switched the>D3D cntrl panel settings from their MS defaults (6/16 AA...)>to appl. pref. I stopped a couple of processes that started>with CC and that was it. Norton was running but disabled. >Ghost was up. I didn't feel like stopping the XP restore>service so that was up. BTW, all this is with no windows>paging file; I heard it was better to do that when you have>1Gb of mem. I forgot to remove the desktop backround when I>ran 01SE but removed it for 03.There's still more left in that machine if you really wanted to see just how high a score it could attain. Drop me an E-Mail if you want to and I'll provide you with a list of tweaks and services to disable for your system.>Now, if switching AA... to appl. preference is what did it,>then there's no benefit for FS2004. I'm so glad that someone>knowlegeable took an interest in my case...thank you!Actually switching to APP Pref. just allows the application running to control it. By default 3DMark disables AA which will kill perf. if enabled. FS2004 will show a huge visual improvement if enabled but with a hit to performance.>The only fans I have is one on top of the processor (comes>with the proc.) and one of the back panel seperate from the>power supply. Plus vents in the front panel. Can Bobby or>someone recommend a specific cooling upgrade and maybe how to>put it in?Your really not in need of anymore fans in your case SJ. If you really wanted to improve airflow, you could add one fan to he front of your case if you wanted to. If you let me know what kind of case you run I can provide you with a better list of possible mods for cooling.>This is too weird. I thought maybe I had a bad video card or>something. BTW2, 3DMark01SE read 351MHz for VGA memory>clocking and 378 for VGA core. Are these normal?Perfectly normal. The actual clock speeds for your card are 350 / 380 so your good to go.>I'm off to Dallas on business for the week. No PC but>definite internet access. Thanks again.Have a good trip. No need to thank. Glad I could help. :)Keep in touch.Bobby