Hi everyone,It's good to see you name back on this forum Tocart, welcome back!We recently started a flightplanning course at school so I thought this would be a good way to practice. I think I got it:(FPL-AXL555P-IN-AT43/M-S/C-LPPT1800-N250F180 MORAS B60 CCS G7 TLD B190 SSN R10 LMG G21 GIVOR V36 AKELU R7 ADIXO R110 NTM L984 RAK N871 HOLAN T40 UVSOV R11 LDZ-EPWA0628-DOF/030107)Total distance according to PM Flightplanner: 1611 NM.Best regards,Peter JansenThe Netherlands

Hi Peter,There seems to be a rounding error in PM Flightplanner (or my flightplanner is wrong (-:), because I get 1654.2 nm for that route...LPPT/21..MORAS

Hi,Mmm, yesterday I departed from Amsterdam to Sharjah on a real Air Holland charter (HLN001P) which eventually takes me to Auckland, New Zealand) on VATSIM. Both PM Flightplanner and Wilco's 767PIC calculated the exact same distance on this 6,5 hour flight. Distance measured from runway to runway. So I'm rather suprised that you've found a rounding error. I guess it's probably the program itself. What flightplanner do you use? Ow..that reminds me. Don't 767PIC and PMFP use the same route database? I believe that data comes from a converted DAFIF database.Bon dia!,Peter

And I just discovered that the FTM SID is a few miles shorter...FTM N872 VIS B47 RIVRO G52 DGO B190 SSN R10 LMG G21 GIVOR V36 AKELU R7 ADIXO R110 NTM L984 RAK N871 HOLAN T40 UVSOV R11 LDZLPPT/21..FTM

Hi Peter,I just checked the distance with some real world charts and I came up with a distance of 492 nm for LPPT/21 to SSN...You can also use http://www.asalink.net/davideg/rfquery.html' target="_blank">this] site to check that distance. Then you come up with:LPPT/21..MORAS

Hi Tocart,Got another one: 1641.3 nm from runway to runway...LPPT/21 .. FTM N872 VIS B47 RIVRO G52 DGO B190 SSN R10 BTZ G17 AGN DCT GAI G5 MEN G53 TDP N871 KUDES N851 TGO N624 WUR Z12 SULUS L984 RAK N871 HOLAN T40 UVSOV R11 LDZ .. EPWA/33Still 28 nm too long :)Regards,Koen

Hello Tocart,here are two routes, one is 1566.23NM long and the the other is 1526.2 NM long.(FPL-LOT9999-IN-B734/M-SDEGRW/S-LPPT1010-N0345F180 DCT MAGUM P600 FTM N872 VIS B47 RIVRO G52 DGONBB190 SSN R10 LMG G21 RLP R11 EPL G21 SBN W718 NKRZ12 SULUS Z23 RAPET T49 KONAR N869 OKX T40 UVSOVN869 TRZ R11 UMTOR DCT-EPWA0434 EPBP -DOF/030106 REG/SPLLG SEL/RSAG )Here is the second one (FPL-AND180-IN-A320/M-SDHIRWXY/C-LPPT0600-N300F180 MAGUM MONIV BARDI ZMR NEA DGO OLTRE ENDAY BTZ MAGEC ENSAC SAU VELIN SOMIG LMG LARON MOU CACHI KASON RLP EPL GIVOR GTQ MAKOT SBN ZWN LADAT MANEM NKR BANIK HAREM WUR ERMUT SULUS LONLI KULOK ABERU OKG06 OKG DONAD DOPOV DOTAK LAGAR LDZ PEPEN UMTOR -EPWA0430 EPBP - ) I am aware of some errors within the flight plan, but the route is valid and it is shorter than requested. :-)Cheers,Andrej L.

Sorry Andrej,If you run those in the IFPUV you will see that they are both invalid.Ok then lads, shall I post my version of it?Cheers

This is what I got, * It's LOW* It's validBut it is 1825 NM :-( Ciao,:-waveFlyerNL

That's a good one! :-lol :-hah :-lol :-hahJasper :-wave

Ok, here goes;FTM7S FTM N872 CANAR A43 ZMR G52 DGO B190 SSN G17 BTZR10 LMG G21 EPL R11 OBORN V17 LUPEN DCT TGO N624 WUR Z12 SULUS L984KULOK Z715 ABKIS Q240 BESIP P96 GUDON B96 ODERA P96 OKX T40 UVSOV R11 LDZ DCTDistance: 1613NMHope you have enjoyed the search.Cheers